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1 posted on 12/27/2016 4:08:04 PM PST by ARGLOCKGUY
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2 posted on 12/27/2016 4:11:52 PM PST by gaijin
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They’re going to try to dump this on DJT. Paint him as the bad guy. “Trump to California: Drop Dead.”


3 posted on 12/27/2016 4:13:09 PM PST by Steely Tom ([VOTE FRAUD] == [CIVIL WAR])
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This will somehow become Trump’s fault.


6 posted on 12/27/2016 4:17:20 PM PST by ealgeone
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“Pension payouts depend on the contributions of current workers, and as the labor force dwindles, so does the money available.”

For most states the governments failed to set aside money for pension funds. It isn’t that the money wasn’t there. The money was spent on other things. In most states the governments were aware that the problem was only getting worse, but they continued to spend money they should have set aside, secure in the knowledge that the system would not fail on their shift. Well, the end is here.

Florida’s system is secure because the law requires the system to be fully balanced at the end of each year. The legislature has done exactly that. It can, therefore be done. But let’s face it, for the most part politicians exist to funnel money to their cronies and through circuitous routes to their own back pockets. That’s were the various unions and former state workers should start looking for it.


9 posted on 12/27/2016 4:19:09 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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Nonsense, Obama used the 1 trillion stimulus funds to sure up the union pension funds. The invested in the stocks which went up with Qe low interest fed rates.


11 posted on 12/27/2016 4:21:33 PM PST by Zenjitsuman (Y)
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Simple solution - seize the remaining fund and put the pensioners on Social Security.

We have the same nonsense in Illinois. Government employee pensions are protected by the state constitution. So bypass changing the state constitution by declaring the pension funds insolvent, then let the government retirees live off SS.

14 posted on 12/27/2016 4:28:07 PM PST by Bernard (The Road To Hell Is Not Paved With Good Results)
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The game was rigged.

The politicians allowed public employee unions.

The union collect money from their members.

The union passes some of this money back to the politicians.

The politicians increase wages and benefits.

Rinse and repeat.

The taxpayers do not have a seat at the table but they are expect to pay.


17 posted on 12/27/2016 4:33:42 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (US out of the UN, UN out of the US)
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‘Bleak future’? Pfft. More bleak than mine. I’ll have worked 47 years when done and when I get the last paycheck, that will be it. $0.00 coming my way after that last direct deposit on the last payday. And no, I’m not counting on a penny of Antisocial Security. I just consider it a 7.65 percentage point surtax on the Internal Revenue Code, and you should too.

I don’t want their stinking paupers alms anyway.


19 posted on 12/27/2016 4:35:08 PM PST by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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When it comes to pensions: the government can giveth and the government can take away. They can just pass a law and give them 30 cents on the dollar promised. The smart and easy solution would be to cap the monthly pension payments such that it remains within budget. All the politically connected would be screaming about their high 6 figure pensions going away, but too bad.


22 posted on 12/27/2016 4:47:50 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Just try doing what the Democrat politicians do.

Open a savings account at a bank.

Put $1,000 into the savings account.

Take out the $1,000 and buy hookers and booze.

Come back a month later and take out the $1,000 again to pay your mortgage.

What?

There’s no money in the account?

Go hold up your neighbors.


30 posted on 12/27/2016 5:04:56 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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A headline that stands out for its level of stupidity, even in 2016.


31 posted on 12/27/2016 5:33:59 PM PST by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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As long as taxpayers have 2 pennies to rub together public employee pensions will never be unfunded. They’ll steal one penny and charge you the other penny for the service.


35 posted on 12/27/2016 7:08:16 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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Budgetary shortfalls that have plagued Detroit for years are now spreading to other municipalities

Quibble but budget shortfalls do not "spread". It's not communicable. They start with in the city or state being fiscally irresponsible

37 posted on 12/27/2016 8:41:46 PM PST by Lorianne
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The public pension defined benefit scheme is a house of cards built by pols and union bosses to keep their own jobs and making false promises to union workers.

Do they have a clue how much money in present dollars it takes to pay a retired police officer $70 grand a year for 35 years AND provide healthcare? It’s close to 4 MILLION DOLLARS! How many 50 or 55 year olds who worked in blue collar type jobs have 4 million in their 401 K at 55?

The answer is NONE.


43 posted on 12/28/2016 9:32:08 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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