Jumbo Jet’s Low Turn On Wrong Course Startles Neighborhood

cbs ^ | 12/19/2016

[BenLurkin]

Sending a jumbo jet low over Altadena? Almost like trying to fly it into the San Gabriels.

[cardinal4]

A 180 heading after turning left from the 7s at LAX would be a complete circle..

[Robert DeLong]

That controller will feel repercussions for that I’m sure. A simple mistake for sure, but a potential catastrophic one as well.

[cardinal4]

well, 3/4 circle..

[Robert DeLong]

Well 2 180's would be a complete circle. As a circle is 360 degrees. Since the plane was heading east upon takeoff and after 2 lefts was now heading out to the ocean, which would be west, the actual command that was given had to be a 90 degree turn to the left followed by a 2nd 90 degree turn to the left. Which equal 180 degrees, or half of a circle.

But i noticed that problem in the report as well.

[Robert DeLong]

Actually half a circle.

[cardinal4]

Yeah, I see that now..

[Chaguito]

It’s the pilot’s responsibility to clarify the controller directions. The pilot of EVA would have to be a mindless robot to accept that vector after taking off from the south complex, a vector taking him directly into the path of the north complex and toward terrain higher than his climb rate.

The pilot isn’t a slave of the controller.

[doorgunner69]

a homeowner who said it tossed her from her bed.

That is some nasty jet wash, must have been REALLY low..........

[Daffynition]

[mylife]

Controllers career is over

[PLMerite]

“Wong Way” Corrigan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Corrigan

[Tucker39]

One word jumped out at me from that narrative: SHE. Just old male chauvinist pig.....me.

[Robert DeLong]

I will agree with you there. He too should face repercussions as well. Not being a pilot I don’t really know if there is a protocol in place, but what you say sounds logical and should be something a pilot should be able to do. Question the controller. Of course we don’t know if he did and it just wasn’t reported in this article.

[Ezekiel]

[truth_seeker]

Awful writing, which is apparently the norm, and acceptable these days.

[BenLurkin]

Exactly.

[doorgunner69]

Major accident caused by a female controller at LAX in the 90's I believe. She gave an airliner clearance to land on a runway another passenger plane was preparing to take off from.

I used to hear her voice scanning ATC channels, sounded nasty. She was gone after that, of course.

[mikeIII]

It’s not the first time - it happened to Columbus, too.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

The plane turned low over an Altadena neighborhood, startling a homeowner who said it tossed her from her bed.

This person is a liar.

It takes at least a 6 earth quake to toss you out of bed and there is no way a jumbo jet produces more vibration then a 6 earthquake.

If it did there would have been a line of destruction every place the plane fly.

There is no such line.