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To: little jeremiah
> I was forced to get windows 10. I have no control over updates. I have no idea how to stop them. Then my computer restarts without my knowledge or consent, any open documents are gone and all windows open are gone. Have any ideas what to do?

With Win10, only Enterprise-level licensing (read: big company + $$$) is able to somewhat control the automatic updates, e.g. delay for a few months. But they get installed eventually. Those of us with mere-mortal licenses are screwed. With some tweaking, one can avoid the updates for a short time on Pro-level licenses, but they eventually get installed whether you like it or not. With a Home-level license, you're bent over the barrel and taking whatever Microsoft shoves your way. "Squeal like a pig!"

> PS. I am a techtard.

Actually in this circumstance, even the "gurus" among us are in similar straits. The only for-sure way to avoid Windows 10 updates is to avoid Windows 10, or never ever connect the computer to the internet. Sorry...

60 posted on 12/15/2016 7:37:49 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Oh well, the ugly truth is always better than a pretty lie. Is there any way to avoid the automatic restart which sometimes happens when I have a lot of stuff open that I would prefer not to lose?

I really, really hate 10. Really hate it. Stuck though.


72 posted on 12/15/2016 9:59:32 AM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: dayglored
Ping to #76

79 posted on 12/15/2016 10:34:41 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: dayglored
Actually in this circumstance, even the "gurus" among us are in similar straits. The only for-sure way to avoid Windows 10 updates is to avoid Windows 10, or never ever connect the computer to the internet. Sorry...

We have exactly two mission critical Windows dependent apps we need to run at my office which is otherwise entirely Apple Mac. Both of these are Cloud based database for which the companies that maintain these databases absolutely require a Windows interface. The last three forced updates at my office has broken the use of these interfaces. . . and one of those three hosed the entire virtual machine so badly it would not drop back to a recovery point or even allow the re-installation of ANY version of Windows at all. . . even after removing every vestige of the hosed Windows 10 install!

After talking to Microsoft, their advice was to reformat the virtual drive (I.e. recreate it) and re-install from scratch. I had to do just that.

This occurred despite the fact I had locked down the Windows 10 system from accepting ANY updates at all. Microsoft ignored those settings and pushed through an update anyway. I researched this and discovered that they have changed their lockouts. You CAN lock-out the updates by telling the system you have a metered internet connection if you connect via WIFI. . . in which case it will not automatically download the updates. However, we use Ethernet. . . and if you use a wired connection, Microsoft, in its infinite wisdom does NOT allow such a lock-out! It ignores that setting, and goes ahead and downloads and installs the update regardless of your settings!

A half-hour AFTER I had re-created the new virtual-machine, the user on that machine announced that the Windows virtual-machine had announced that it wanted to install a new Windows 10 update! She was given a now or later option. I had her select the later option and immediately had her shut down the virtual machine. We made an exact copy of the entire 68GB virtual drive. She now starts up the Windows 10 instance, does what is necessary, and then quits the entire virtual machine, not giving it a chance to update! If it does accidentally update, I have a back-up virtual drive I can copy and in a couple of minutes we are back in business. Got my fingers crossed that this will do the trick!

80 posted on 12/15/2016 11:00:59 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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