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Beware Windows 10 latest cumulative update!
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Posted on 12/15/2016 5:05:04 AM PST by eastexsteve

A word of warning from a retired IT guy with vast experience in multi-platforms. The latest Windows 10 cumulative update dated 12/13 (KB3206632) has proven to be the death of of my Dell Dual Core 780 desktop. I should have heeded the warning signs from the last two big Win 10 updates on this box, as they were troublesome to install, and brought the machine to it's knees both times. But, I was still able to get the machine through the installs both times. This one though, put the machine face down in the mud, and I couldn't even recover it from a previous restore point. I had to do a complete reset and lost everything! Since it was a machine that began with Win 7, that means it cleaned it's clock all the way back to fresh install of Win 7. (Though, I did have a backup of all my data.) Well needless to say, I'll be spending hours re-installing and re-configuring software packages.

I've tried to be a big fan of Windows, since I have software that doesn't have a sister version for Unix/Linux and must run in Windows. And, I can definitely tell that Win 10 is more robust than Win 7. But, This has sent me on another quest to find a Linux replacement for some specialized software that I use.

This has definitely put me in the "If it absolutely positively has to work, don't do it on a Windows box" camp of computer users. Sorry Microsoft. I tried, and I tried hard.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; update; windows; windows10; windowspinglist
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1 posted on 12/15/2016 5:05:04 AM PST by eastexsteve
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I stopped the updates on my old toshiba laptop a few months ago. The updates were taking hours to install. I think the operating system is Windows 7.


2 posted on 12/15/2016 5:08:00 AM PST by MustKnowHistory
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It killed CC Cleaner on my PC deader than a doornail.

It can’t repair it or even tell me what version of Windows the program was written for.


3 posted on 12/15/2016 5:09:13 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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To: eastexsteve
Been thinking of going LINUX and running Win apps on a VM install of Win - any suggestions - I have some old Unix (mainly Solaris) training but haven't even dabbled for 15 years so the LINUX platform would have to be pretty user friendly.

Thanks

4 posted on 12/15/2016 5:09:26 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I hate the updates because they often change privacy and advertising settings.


5 posted on 12/15/2016 5:10:01 AM PST by Fhios
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To: MustKnowHistory

Same iMac since 2011...


6 posted on 12/15/2016 5:10:48 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: eastexsteve

Use Linux on the bare metal host and create a W10 guest (virtual machine) to run apps that can only run on Windows.

Keep your data in a shared folder, that is, a folder that can be shared by the Linux Host and the W10 guest.

I use Oracle VirtualBox, which provides a “seamless desktop”, so that your Linux and Windows task bars and app windows can share the same desktop.

You could also run the W10 guest in alternative desktop on the Linux box. Most Linux desktops provide four alternates by default.

For Windoes users, a flavor of Ubuntu is probably most easy to adapt to.


7 posted on 12/15/2016 5:13:10 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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Being an experiencedad IT guy you should have known that Windows 10 is going to eat a core 2 duo for lunch. You should have upgraded the hardware, if not just for speed, but for the fact that electronics eventually die.

Your mistake, not Microsoft’s.


8 posted on 12/15/2016 5:13:23 AM PST by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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If you have software that has to run on windows, it is time to find new software.

Some folks still access the interwebs on AOL....LOL!


9 posted on 12/15/2016 5:14:20 AM PST by wrench
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I’m in IT too and Windows 10 is a disaster.

I HATE Windows 10. This forced update stuff is just horrible—it breaks something every time. It used to break OneDrive after every update, so I changed to Google Drive. It also killed my printer drivers and I was unable to fix that until I used my MSDN subscription to download Windows 10 Enterprise and reinstalled everything.

Windows 10 is the worst MS Windows in decades. Just horrible.


10 posted on 12/15/2016 5:14:53 AM PST by The Toad
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

>It killed CC Cleaner on my PC deader than a doornail.

Same here. I downloaded the latest version. Works fine.


11 posted on 12/15/2016 5:15:45 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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It might be advisable to do an image of your system before installing updates, if they’re going to prove so unreliable.


12 posted on 12/15/2016 5:16:04 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: eastexsteve

Installed on my old dual core Dell Inspiron last night. Running fine so far.


13 posted on 12/15/2016 5:21:07 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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This one though, put the machine face down in the mud, and I couldn't even recover it from a previous restore point. I had to do a complete reset and lost everything!

Now you've got me wondering. My thin little thin, HP, el cheapo, 17-incher (I use it on trips because it is so lightweight and thin): I was in Vegas, did some financial and correspondence work on it the morning of 12/9, closed it, took my lady to lunch and shopping. Upon return, I opened the little HP up, and it wouldn't even turn on. Not even a blue screen. No nada.

Now unlike you, I'm not an IT guy; but no novice, either. I have resurrected many a computer, both from software and hardware standpoints. This recent event, I think, is clearly a hardware issue; but your post has me wondering: is it possible that a bad software update could've triggered on/off relay problems like I described?

14 posted on 12/15/2016 5:25:40 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great- -- until it happens to YOU.)
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Cox Cable has admitted to me that they are incompatible with Windows 10 for email purposes. I can receive email sometimes but can never send email. Cox claims that the problem is related to changes they had to make to their servers to prevent future hacking. In the meantime I’ve had to revert to Old Windows 7 desktop. Cox admits that the problem may not be solved until March 2017. They refused to give any consideration on billing even though they can’t provide full internet access.


15 posted on 12/15/2016 5:26:02 AM PST by ritpg (Wise up, folks.)
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Not having any of those problems. I use both OneDrive and Google Drive daily.

I love Windows 10. It has been so stable for me I am shocked.


16 posted on 12/15/2016 5:29:08 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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Oddly enough, my doggy Inspiron notebook hasn’t had any problem with the updates. But, as I stated in my original post, it killed the desktop.


17 posted on 12/15/2016 5:29:25 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: The Toad

We have W10 on our office pc’s. IT guy installed F1 content filter to restrict internet access. Yep, it restricts almost everything. I have to use my company IPhone to do research I used to do on the PC.


18 posted on 12/15/2016 5:29:58 AM PST by 9422WMR (President Trump, I like the sound of that!)
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To: trebb

I like Ubuntu Linux myself for a unix-type platform.


19 posted on 12/15/2016 5:32:27 AM PST by eastexsteve
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When Win-10 first started appearing on the upgrade horizon I heard many a complaint about “I lost my email!”. When I pressed for details I confirmed that they were using web-based email (gmail, hotmail, etc) and the default Win-10 web browser - Edge.

It was the browser every time. I showed them how to launch Internet Explorer (or better yet, install an alternate browser like Firefox or my favorite - Pale Moon).

Without exception they all reported that they “got their emails back!”.

If (when) you find yourself on a Win-10 machine make sure to dump Edge.


20 posted on 12/15/2016 5:32:42 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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