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[Vanity] Are the people calling for Ryan's removal looking to delay Trumps agenda

Posted on 11/11/2016 5:42:16 PM PST by MagillaX

So we now here the calls to remove Ryan as the speaker of the house. Is it a good or bad idea.

Reason for removal: Can't be trusted

Reason for staying: Removal will involve changes in leadership and delays in Trumps agenda, Wisconsin went for Trump and Ryan did give some support in final days of campaign.

Risk assessment: Trust is not needed initially as long as Ryan follows through with Trumps agenda, potential for back stabbing increases with time.

Leadership change will delay Trumpa agenda causing potential risk of opposition as honeymoon period passes.

New leadership may be even worse.

Conclusion: Leadership change should be shelved for the year as long as Ryan commits to supporting Trumps 100 day agenda.

Emotions need to be checked at the door.


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To: Owen

A trillion dollar increase will be needed to meet *current* budget needs. And then there’s the increased spending Trump wants.

It just can’t be done, in time, with cuts alone.

I assume we’ll see some cuts in the final budget in March or April. But more will be needed. The next budget will be a terrible battle, politicians that cut spending don’t usually get re-elected.


81 posted on 11/11/2016 7:13:16 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: zerosix
I seem to recall Trump's planned Wisconsin visit being cancelled the weekend prior to the election, due to Ryan's plan changes!

You are thinking of something else. The visit change the weekend before the election was because someone foolishly scheduled it at the same time as the Packer game.

82 posted on 11/11/2016 7:17:45 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: mrsmith

Agreed.

But you see, the big problem/danger here is we live in a world where the Fed has just demonstrated it creates trillions of dollars from nothingness with a few keypresses. They have greatly undermined money itself as a concept.

So now, after TARP didn’t really get GDP growth, we’re supposed to do the same thing and because a different name is on it we should expect it to “work” . . . where work is defined as GDP 3+%.

Govt spending is part of the GDP equation (look it up). If you spend enough you can get GDP growth. But is that really a GOP perspective? Is it in any way a conservative GOP perspective?

No. This stimulus isn’t going to happen. Period. No one will buy the bonds — including the Fed.


83 posted on 11/11/2016 7:18:12 PM PST by Owen
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Lyin Ryan tried to pull a coup when that Bush video got dumped... lyin Ryan is worse that the worst self identified liberal.. he dis-invited Trump and tried to get Pence to show up instead. Ryan has to go!!!
84 posted on 11/11/2016 7:20:11 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: T. P. Pole
Nope. Ryan disinvited Trump after the Billy Bush tape episode.

He was never for Trump and his "I'm not on board yet" after Trump won the primary showed his hand as a Washington insider.

Weather he loved Trump or not, Republicans and especially the Republican speaker of the house should back the Republicans chosen nominee.

Lyin Ryan need to go.

85 posted on 11/11/2016 7:35:32 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: T. P. Pole
Well that certainly made sense! (Go Packers!)

Must have been the other one at an earlier date I was remembering.

86 posted on 11/11/2016 7:35:54 PM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Newbomb Turk

You are thinking about a different rally a few weeks earlier. This was a non-Trump thing at a county fairground near Janesville. The Trump organized one the weekend before the election was cancelled because it was scheduled at the same time as the Packer game.


87 posted on 11/11/2016 7:41:30 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: zerosix

Yes. It wasn’t a Trump rally but a gathering of Republicans from that part of the state. Ryan did an invite to Trump, then a disinvite after the pussy tape.


88 posted on 11/11/2016 7:45:00 PM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: Owen

Government spending ‘can’ increase the real GDP but ONLY if it’s spent on productive activity.
It usually fails though because the government cannot predict well what’s productive (that’s inherent), and because it doesn’t even intend it’s spending for production- but for welfare!
Why welfare spending isn’t counted as consumption is beyond me.

Bond yields have already gone up since Trump won, in expectation of increased spending.

Trump is certainly going to have a hard time forcing discipline on congress- every president does. This first budget will soon show how he’s doing.


89 posted on 11/11/2016 7:52:58 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: MagillaX

I don’t know. He and and some of his friends are really kissing Trump ass. After so much butt kissing I think he’s committed.

I wouldn’t shed a tear though if he was canned.


90 posted on 11/11/2016 8:01:04 PM PST by Fhios (In the end Hillary, MSM, and Obama were beat by Trumps pure strategic genius.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t know what you want me to say.

If the GOP wants to continue to elect people who are not leaders to positions of leadership, then I guess that’s what they will do.

Ryan led the GOP nowhere. They accomplished nothing. they weren’t even smart enough to realize that Trump was the way to victory. They are all idiots.


91 posted on 11/11/2016 8:05:51 PM PST by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
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To: little jeremiah
Ryan’s wife was instrumental in leaking the video of Trump talking naughty.

Ryan's wife is a stay-at-home mom who lives in Janesville, WI.

Did she leak the Trump video before or after volunteering at the elementary school book drive?

92 posted on 11/11/2016 8:11:21 PM PST by Sideshow Bob (I wish all the FReeper $$$ spent on Nehlen were spent helping elect Trump instead!)
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To: 9YearLurker
I say get rid of Ryan while you can.

Definitely.

93 posted on 11/11/2016 8:27:39 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: MagillaX

Dump him. He is a zero integrity backstabber.


94 posted on 11/11/2016 8:28:00 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Sideshow Bob

“...Paul Ryan is married to Janna Little a liberal, left wing progressive, anti-Constitutional, big government George Soros supporter who voted for Barack Hussein Obama twice...”

http://drrichswier.com/2016/05/18/mrs-janna-little-ryan-a-liberal-running-the-show-from-the-family-kitchen-table/

“...Janna comes from a Democratic family. Her cousin, Dan Boren, was a Democratic Representative for Oklahoma from 2005 to 2013. Dan’s father, David Boren, was the 21st governor of Oklahoma from 1975 to 1979. Dan’s grandfather, Lyle Boren, was a Democratic member of the U.S. House of Representatives from 1937 to 1947...”

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/paul-ryan-wife-janna-little-speaker-of-the-house-married-children-bio-job-net-worth-age-romney-pictures-photos/


95 posted on 11/11/2016 8:29:23 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

The only Republican Janna has ever voted for other than her husband is Mitt Romney!


96 posted on 11/11/2016 8:31:48 PM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: Theodore R.

The above post though says Janna did NOT support the Romney-Ryan ticket: kind of doubtful, but maybe not. Partisanship counts!


97 posted on 11/11/2016 8:33:02 PM PST by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: BlatherNaut

Another priceless post from you. Thanks!

But, how would anyone possibly know how Janna votes?


98 posted on 11/11/2016 9:05:24 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education is the farm team for more Marxists coming,... infinitum.)
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To: Sideshow Bob

Aha, I was wrong. I will have to look for the actual connection (there is one). Thanks for the correction, I don’t like being wrong.


100 posted on 11/11/2016 9:17:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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