Correlation is not causation. The map is not the territory.
Posted on 10/27/2016 6:22:01 PM PDT by Rusty0604
In an amusing twist, Julian Assange whose Wikileaks has now had 20 individual releases of hacked John Podesta emails over the past three weeks and who has been accused by Hillary Clinton of collaborating with the Russians in an attempt to disrupt and subvert the US electoral process, accused the Clinton campaign of attacking the servers used by WikiLeaks. Speaking via telephone at a conference in Argentina on Wednesday, RT reported that Assange claimed the daily email release ritual has “whipped up a crazed hornet’s nest atmosphere in the Hillary Clinton campaign” leading them to attack WikiLeaks.
“They attacked our servers and attempted hacking attacks and there is an amazing ongoing campaign where state documents were put in the UN and British courts to accuse me of being both a Russian spy and a pedophile,” he added.
Assange described Ecuador’s decision to shut down his internet for the duration of the presidential campaign as a “strategic position” so that its “policy of non-intervention can’t be misinterpreted by actors in the US and even domestically in Ecuador.” He said he was sympathetic with Ecuador, insisting they face the dilemma of having the US interfere with their elections next year if they appear to interfere with the US elections next month. He also said that he did not agree with Ecuador’s decision but did understand it. WikiLeaks will not be affected by the decision as they do not publish from Ecuador, he said.
He did, however, reject the idea that WikiLeaks is interfering with the US election, claiming, “this is not the interference of electoral process, this is the definition of electoral process – for media organizations and, in fact, everyone to publish the truth and their opinion about what is occurring. It cannot be a free and informed election unless people are free to inform.”
Assange did not stop there and also attacked US TV networks, many of whom he accused of being “controlled by Clinton supporters." If there is anything the Podesta emails have revealed, it is that he is correct in his assessment.
Then Assange went one better and even predicted that Trump will lose, saying that the Podesta emails will make no difference to the election result, according to Assange. “I don’t think there’s any chance of Donald Trump winning the election, even with the amazing material we are publishing, because most of the media organizations are strongly aligned with Hillary Clinton,” he said adding that journalists and people who work in the media are predominantly middle class and view Trump as representing “what in their mind is white trash.”
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Meanwhile, in the latest spin in this ongoing drama, moments ago a member of the anti-Putin Russian punk band Pussy Riot became the latest to accuse Assange of directly collaborating with Moscow. “But Julian Assange, he openly works with [Russia],” Nadezhda Tolokonnikova aka Nadya Tolokno, told The Daily Beast in an interview Thursday. "It’s not a secret. He’s connected with the Russian government, and I feel that he’s proud of it.
“I generally support the work that WikiLeaks is doing, but I’m not that thrilled about his decisions that are unethical, in my view, concerning his connections to the Russian government.”
What, if any, was Tolokno's evidence? The Pussy Riot member said she visited Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London two years ago, saying their meeting convinced her WikiLeaks has ties to the Kremlin.
“He couldn’t deny it,” Tolokno said. "He often works with the Russian propaganda machine, and he doesn’t try to hide it. “Julian Assange doesn’t try to hide that fact because he hosts at the Ecuadorian Embassy the editor-in-chief of the Russian propaganda team, Russia Today, and he has projects with them,” she added.
RT has repeatedly denied that it collaborates with Assange, however at this late stage in the game we have long since moved past the evidentiary phase, and word of mouth accusations are the norm.
Tolokno added she confronted Assange about advancing Russian interests ahead of America’s. “I understood his position: He’s in a state of war with the American government,” she said. "He’s smart and charismatic and will use any means to destroy the American government.
Tolokno also made her own political views regarding the US election quite clear: "I wish that Hillary Clinton will win this presidential election, and if I had the option to go and vote, I would vote for her. Everyone needs to vote for her because it will save a lot of lives. I know people are apathetic right now because everything surrounding this election has been pretty ugly, but it’s really important to go out and vote and stop Trump."
The anti-Putin activist, who has repeatedly made her own anger at the Putin regime well known, said that “we had a conversation if it was really the ethical thing to do that with the hands of another government [Russia] which is, in fact, much worse and a real authoritarian government.”
Well, if Assange truly hates the American government as much as he does, he may need to leak a smoking gun filled with so much smoke that it penetrates even the biased American press and convinces most Americans. Considering he has just 11 days in which to do it, he may want to hurry up, or else the next time President Hillary Clinton talks about droning Julian Assange, it won't be a joke.
I don’t agree that Trump is going to lose the election. He’s going to win and win Yuuuge!
Is he saying he’ll lose because of MSM or because of being hacked? MSM can’t keep Trump down, but a hack? Well, nobody can beat that.
the next time President Hillary Clinton talks about droning Julian Assange, it won’t be a joke.
What makes them think it was a joke BEFORE?
Clearly, herself would have tried it if it was possible.
Trump has overwhelming support among real Americans. If only legal citizens could vote, he’d win by a landslide. If you live in a place that typically votes Dumbocrat, look out for busses in the area and unfamiliar “voters” who don’t fit the profile of the neighborhood. Those will be the illegals.
They will arrive on busses and then re-board after voting so that they can be taken to the next polling place. I’ll bet a good crew of illegals can hit 10 or more polling places in a day. Figure 50 per bus, and a typical convoy of five busses. If several convoys spread out across the larger states and each illegal votes an average of eight times, that could really add up.
I’m seeing some great Trump ads in PA, very optimistic, bright.
Gonna read an study it a while, remember,listen to what ya don’t hear
They did it in 2012 and no one could do anything about it, so they are even more emboldened this time.
Obama didn’t have to cheat. As usual, the GOP put up a limp dick that any Democrat could’ve beaten with half his brain tied behind his back.
I believe in God. All things are possible with Him and I will be praying.
“They will arrive on busses and then re-board after voting so that they can be taken to the next polling place. I’ll bet a good crew of illegals can hit 10 or more polling places in a day. Figure 50 per bus, and a typical convoy of five busses. If several convoys spread out across the larger states and each illegal votes an average of eight times, that could really add up.”
Can’t we organize a system to follow any buses around that are seen going to polling places? If they are seen leaving one and going to another, call the authorities and demand they be checked for multiple IDs or any paperwork showing them “what their name is at each stop?”
Or simple as taking photos of the buses license plates and where they park, the people getting out of them at each stop.
There has got to be something that can be done to make sure this is ineffective or at a minimum get the votes nullified.
If he thinks that. Trump will loose, then WHY is he realising these emails now before the election?? That does not make any sense. He is trying to influence the election. Because if hillary wins, Assange is a dead man walking.
He has a point. Most people are stupid and while think the media is biased, all think they are too smart to be fooled by the media and fall for it - a point they are wrong on.
Secondly, Trump not only has to win but win OVER the margin of fraud and with so many squishes thinking that a 3rd party vote is ‘smart’ (see above) it will be difficult - not impossible, but difficult.
Assange conditions his prediction on the fact that the MSM will not report on the Wikileaks material. I think he underestimates the impact of the alt-media. The word is getting out despite the MSM.
Assange is frustrated because his material is not having the effect he thought it would.
Correlation is not causation. The map is not the territory.
Assange peddles history. Not predictions.
Apparently Assange has made a public appearance (be it by conference call). Good to know he’s above room temperature.
When his internet was working, I doubt he was spending a whole lot of time on conservative and/or alt-media sites and he hasn’t lived in America so he doesn’t realize that anything can happen here and doesn’t know our culture(s).
Maybe he needs to release more
“Can’t we organize a system to follow any buses around that are seen going to polling places? If they are seen leaving one and going to another, call the authorities and demand they be checked for multiple IDs or any paperwork showing them “what their name is at each stop?”
This is exactly the kind of “targeting” Obama has indicted Sheriff Joe for doing. Not that I disagree with the premise, I am just saying that even if you manage to follow them, good luck on finding any federal official who will agree to check their IDs. That is exactly what the AZ 1060 law wanted to allow (allow cops to check the IDs of apparent illegals), and a federal court said it was an illegal search - even with “cause.” - That is the machine we are up against.
I don’t agree with Assange about Trump losing - I don’t think anyone knows anything for sure, but I see his rationale for saying that. It is the same as saying “if you think I am responsible for this election either way, look to the media, not me, and at the limits of gullibility of the average US voter towards that media.”
His only power is to expose the truth to the media - what happens beyond that is out of his control.
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