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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD OCT. 21, 2016
freerepublic | Oct. 21, 2016 | greeneyes

Posted on 10/21/2016 6:52:14 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table(recipes)preserving, good living - there is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I’m going to have to plant some pepper seeds for indoor garden.


61 posted on 10/23/2016 7:56:42 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Wneighbor

I don’t know about that. Tomatoes don’t really do much when the nights are below 50 degrees, but in Missouri, we will get several nights of 60 and then down and then up again.


62 posted on 10/23/2016 8:00:20 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: tubebender

Great pics. Thanks for sharing.


63 posted on 10/23/2016 8:03:54 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

I wish posting photos wasn’t so difficult on FR so more folks could share. We have more rain coming this week...


64 posted on 10/23/2016 9:00:00 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender

One day I might have figure it out, but time is always so short, and there’s so much to do that I enjoy - I find it harder and harder to do stuff that I don’t want to do.

I think that’s an age thing too. I can remember when I turned fifty, certain things, I just quit doing, and others I just refused when they came up. That was a big change for me, as I always tried to do whatever came up when people asked, unless I had a conflict and couldn’t.

I remember telling some people, I have spent more than half my life doing stuff that I’d rather not do, haven’t ever done this, that, or the other, and have no desire to do it, and am not going to start now. Sorry, but it just ain’t happening. LOL


65 posted on 10/23/2016 11:30:23 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: tubebender

One day I might have figure it out, but time is always so short, and there’s so much to do that I enjoy - I find it harder and harder to do stuff that I don’t want to do.

I think that’s an age thing too. I can remember when I turned fifty, certain things, I just quit doing, and others I just refused when they came up. That was a big change for me, as I always tried to do whatever came up when people asked, unless I had a conflict and couldn’t.

I remember telling some people, I have spent more than half my life doing stuff that I’d rather not do, haven’t ever done this, that, or the other, and have no desire to do it, and am not going to start now. Sorry, but it just ain’t happening. LOL


66 posted on 10/23/2016 11:30:51 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: Wneighbor

Have not heard about oven canning before. What temp and for how long?


67 posted on 10/24/2016 4:09:31 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). Time to Pray, Prepare, and Participate.)
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To: tubebender

Beautiful beautiful pictures!


68 posted on 10/24/2016 4:11:16 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). Time to Pray, Prepare, and Participate.)
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To: greeneyes
You really can't ask for nicer weather than what we've had lately here in Central Missouri.

I got busy over the weekend and built some more board fence around the barn lot. It doesn't look like all that much, but I'm fairly well whooped today.

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69 posted on 10/24/2016 7:31:56 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Augie

Beautiful workmanship!!! What is the wood?


70 posted on 10/24/2016 8:46:32 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender

It’s native white oak. The heartwood from this stuff will last for 40 years or more without any preservative treatment. The sapwood isn’t quite as good, but still much better than the PT pine they sell at the lumberyard.


71 posted on 10/24/2016 9:54:16 AM PDT by Augie
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To: greeneyes
Feet aren’t really cold though. It’s either electrolytes or neuropathy, so sometimes the warmth doesn’t really help.

Hugs! ~sigh~ I swear neuropathy must have caused hundreds or thousands to be committed to asylums 100 years ago. Some days I am *sure* I am a lunatic from all these false signals my nerves send. I feel horrible for you too, even when the cold is the only fake signal you get its nuts. The whole reason hubby got me that lemon tree is the electrolyte issue. He keeps me entertained :) A physical therapist told me about the electrolytes possibly helping issues after my injuries. He suggested that instead of gatorade or those fizzy tablets or pills that I try lemons and sea salt in water. It helps me a lot when the issue is electrolytes and not neuropathy. Hubby decided when we saw the lemon tree at the local nursery that home grown lemons would be 10 times better. I'm a bit skeptical on the math there, but I've never said no to a new plant :)

72 posted on 10/24/2016 10:22:42 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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To: greeneyes
I don’t know about that. Tomatoes don’t really do much when the nights are below 50 degrees, but in Missouri, we will get several nights of 60 and then down and then up again.

We are still having most of our time here with nightime lows in the 60's and daytime highs in the 70's. Last Friday night that one dip to the 40's was an off norther. Looking at my forecast I dont have any more nights below 60 yet for 12 days. I'm praying these maters in! LOL

My diabolical plan here is to feed and water these last 6 tomato plants like your first baby, get hubby to gather them in a warm nook on the south west side when it gets cooler and hope for more sets. I noticed last winter I was down to my last 3 pints of chowchow so I'd love to make a batch after first freeze. But I'd also love to lay out a flat or so of green maters to ripen over the first of winter.

and after I was so happy to report of my year being able to get up and garden again, today I am stuck lying down in my glass enclosed room in bed again :( I can see the top of my lemon tree, 2 hibiscus, one of which has 3 big blooms, my bouganvilla putting out some bright orange new bracts and 2 heavily laden peppers surrounded by Italian parsley. One of those laden tomato plants is out there below window level but everything else is on the other side of the house where it still gets morning sun. It's over 80 out there and I should be out doing something. Hubby says maybe tomorrow :/

73 posted on 10/24/2016 10:48:49 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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To: tubebender
I wish posting photos wasn’t so difficult on FR so more folks could share. We have more rain coming this week...

Has the process of posting changed in the last years? To be honest I lost access to the sight I used to upload photos years ago. Not sure what happened to it. 10 years ago I posted lots of photos. Used to upload to photobucket (? I think?) Then copy the location and use html to post the location here? Photobucket may be wrong, i tried to find it a couple years ago and couldn't get there. Plus, I do all this on my android phone now so its not as easy to see as when I had 18" computer screen I used.

so, here's a question. My hubby is fabulous, but he does not like social media. Won't get into all that but I don't mind going along. Miss all I could see of my grandkids pictures etc, on FB but got the kids sorta trained to text us some of their FB posts. However, hubby tolerates me on FR since it's news. And he's met some freepers. But, is there a place I could put just garden photos that I could upload here that would not be public social media?

74 posted on 10/24/2016 11:03:50 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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To: tubebender
I wish posting photos wasn’t so difficult on FR so more folks could share. We have more rain coming this week...

Has the process of posting changed in the last years? To be honest I lost access to the sight I used to upload photos years ago. Not sure what happened to it. 10 years ago I posted lots of photos. Used to upload to photobucket (? I think?) Then copy the location and use html to post the location here? Photobucket may be wrong, i tried to find it a couple years ago and couldn't get there. Plus, I do all this on my android phone now so its not as easy to see as when I had 18" computer screen I used.

so, here's a question. My hubby is fabulous, but he does not like social media. Won't get into all that but I don't mind going along. Miss all I could see of my grandkids pictures etc, on FB but got the kids sorta trained to text us some of their FB posts. However, hubby tolerates me on FR since it's news. And he's met some freepers. But, is there a place I could put just garden photos that I could upload here that would not be public social media?

75 posted on 10/24/2016 11:03:51 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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To: MomwithHope
Have not heard about oven canning before. What temp and for how long?

I think oven canning is so banned and disapproved of that I've heard people say it's illegal.

But I use it for sealing well dehydrated foods like my peppers or banana chips, apple slices, things I know are dry and crispy, not dry and gooey. And I use it for beans, rice, cereal, cornmeal. Not wheat flour tho as its not safe (fire or explosive hazard i think? I used to have all that reasoning stored in my memory bank but it's been overwritten for this moment) Pecans, pumpkin and sunflower seeds work well but not super oily nuts.

Anyway, if you are at all interested in doing this, I don't mind sharing. Just know, your local county agent will think it's heresy. And, it is NOT to be used except for dry securing dry products. But, if you buy in bulk and want to separate the bulk things into smaller quantities for long term storage. Or if you dehydrate your bounty and need to keep it longer without taking up freezer space, it's great. I use it for both those purposes and one more, grandkids always want some sugary weird colorful cereal but they dont stay long enuf to eat the whole box. If I forget to send it home with them, I oven can the leftover so when they visit and I haven't bought their current favorite box I can pull out a little jar of non-old-people-cereal. LOL

Question: since this is such an old disapproved-of technique, should I post it here? Send to Momwithhope by freepmail only? I am confined to home/bed today and would be a good thing to occupy my time to share.

76 posted on 10/24/2016 11:29:53 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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To: Augie

It is beautiful!


77 posted on 10/24/2016 11:30:49 AM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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To: Wneighbor

All good info thanks. Now that I see what you are using it for it would not work for me. Maybe someone else. I have the canning jar attachments for my food saver so I vacuum seal nuts, rice, oats,,etc. But who knows if the electricity goes out for a long time I could use an oven. How about time and temps for quarts and pints?


78 posted on 10/24/2016 11:44:12 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Missing you /johnny (JRandomFreeper). Time to Pray, Prepare, and Participate.)
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To: Wneighbor

I’m currently using Flickr for free photo storage. They format the HTML but you have to choose the size. My photos here are 800 X 600 and I see Augie is using a larger setting. You need to know the HTML code for paragraph breaks


79 posted on 10/24/2016 12:15:02 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: MomwithHope
Well, with oven canning this is the ONE time you dont need Mason jars. I too have a vacuum sealer that I love but the plastic gets expensive for me and the jars for oven canning are the free jars from some store bought foods. Jars must be glass with metal lids that have the continuous rubber seal like canning lids. You can even use USED canning jar lids if you've got glass jars they fit that don't have proper metal/rubber lids. I use everything from giant pickle jars to teeny pimento jars. They're free and I've opened good stuff 10-12 yrs later. No bugs, mold, staleness etc as long as they stay sealed. I leave my expensive vacuum sealer plastic for keeping produce and meat fresh longer. Or freezing excess dishes that don't pressure can well.

But sterilize and dry all glass jars and lids, preheat oven to 200-225, fill jars to the top because that dry stuff settles, pull top shelf out of oven, put jars spaced 1" apart on a cookie sheet and place on bottom oven rack, allow oven to come back up to heat then time 1 hour. Have a cooling towel ready. Work quickly and remove one jar at a time, wipe the rim with a dry cloth, tamp down on the cooling towel if it looks like product will touch lid, wipe again, put lid on, screw tight and leave spaced on cooling towel.

you can have another batch of jars ready to put right back on the cookie sheet in the oven.

Same as Mason jars, you hear and see those jars pop and seal. You can check them in storage to make sure seals still hold by pressing lid. Works for any dry stuff. I use the little pimento jars for my dried herbs. Big jars for dry beans and blackeyes. Middle size for rice, pasta, oatmeal, nuts, dried veggies and fruits, unsweet coconut flakes, cereal, nuts etc.

80 posted on 10/24/2016 12:58:42 PM PDT by Wneighbor (Deplorable, livin in a swamp of crazy and lovin it)
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