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To: arl295

I have to jump in on this. I was a happy owner of a Note 7, I swapped it out for a S7 Edge.

The N7 was an amazing device that got hamstrung by its battery. Was is poor design or poor quality control? Who knows.

But all smartphones with Li Ion batteries have the potential to catastrophically fail.

The N7 had a higher than normal failure rate and Samsung issued the recall. But by doing so they also opened Pandora’s Box.

We live in a very ligatious society, insurance fraud is rampant. The media for a few days replaced Trump with the Note 7 and the most despised & dangerous thing on the planet. And as any Freeper knows, once the media gets on their narrative kick, they will ride that horse into the ground. And not to get any Apple fans in a twist, I would not be surprised if Apple didn’t offer some $ to keep the media on the heels of their #1 competitor.

The Note 7 is in the history books. But here is where Pandora’s Box comes in. Be it from design flaw to manufacturing defect to owner mishandling LiOn battery powered smartphones have the potential to thermogenically go up in flames and right now the new iPhone 7 series seem to be in the cross hairs.

I hope the saying “Necessity is the mother of inventions” and Samsung finds either a suitable replacement for Li Io batteries or a better manufacturing process to cut down failures.

When the Note 8 comes out, I will be first in line.


39 posted on 10/21/2016 8:12:25 PM PDT by TheShaz
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To: TheShaz

Well written.
I believe you will find the Apple-hate a one-way argument. I have no problem with Samsung products as long as they do not copy Apple. The problem Samsung has is one of Lithium battery technology and perhaps assembly and packaging methodology.

Nothing wrong with the design per se. But the battery appears to have been damaged during assembly or processing.


42 posted on 10/21/2016 8:25:52 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: TheShaz
And not to get any Apple fans in a twist, I would not be surprised if Apple didn’t offer some $ to keep the media on the heels of their #1 competitor.

The Note 7 was experiencing overheating and fires far beyond th expected rate of 1 on 10,000,000 per year. 94 in the US alone with 26 resulting in personal injury. It was happening all over the world where ever the Note 7 had been sold at an annual rate 3,000 times greater than that expected rate! That is why the Note 7 was recalled and put on banned to fly lists around the world, and just today banned from passenger trains in the US. . . and that was just 2.5 million shipped.

No one was "bribing" or paying for adverse publicity because it was unnecessary. The Note 7 had a serious problem. Even given that, 1,000,000 people have yet to turn in their phones and are trying ways to smuggle them onto airplanes and trains!

Samsung had no choice but to issue a recall. Even the South Korean government had issued a mandatory recall in South Korea before the US Consumer Product Safety Commission acted.

The iPhone 7 has had ONE SINGLE reported fire. The first was an obvious external shipping damage incident. . . and proved so. It does not count. This one I posted today is the first and since the first introduction of the iPhone 7 and 7 plus, which are selling faster than the other iPhone introductions, which sold over 12 million in their first weekends, there are likely 20-25 million already in the wild, in 20-25 nations, having ONE fire does not "put it in the cross hairs". That makes this headline merely a FUD click bait headline, trying to get people to THINK what you are saying which ZERO evidence to back up that claim.

I suspect that Samsung will release a phone with a lower capacity battery, instead of one that is so crammed with dense Lithium Ion cells. . . and one that does not depend on fast charging which is also a suspect in this scenario.

43 posted on 10/21/2016 8:35:30 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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