a) if their side cheats, I'm not bothered that we got help to offset their cheating.
b) Obama should declare the entire election null and void and keep himself in office until a tamper-proof election can be held (with Dems still allowed to cheat in their traditional ways, of course)
c) Trump should declare that he did not win in a fair way and call for a new election.
d) Our side should only accept victory if it is won fairly. This is America and we only win if we play by the rules.
e) What time does my show start? I'm tuning this out.
Personally, I'm not buying the idea the Russians are behind the hacks at all. To what end? Do they really think they would have an easier time negotiating with Trump than with Hillary?
But if the Democrats are willing to do *anything* to win, as they have shown, how would you feel about the Russians possibly countertampering U.S. elections?
IMO, the stakes this time are so high, I would regretfully accept Russian aid but, after the inauguration, redouble efforts to prevent such hacks and interventions in future elections - even if it means going back to paper ballots and voter ID.
Thoughts?
Putin is a smart man, he is supporting Trump because he wants Hillary to win
Putin is playing 3D chess while the Democrats are reading the directions to Tiddly Winks
So I would take all of this “Rusian are hacking us” nonsense with a grain of salt, if anything it is disgruntled DNC insiders, some whom are dead, who leaked the information. Russia is a distraction, do you trust the government that told you it was all about a movie or if you like your insurance you can keep it? I don’t, not for a second.
If the Russians hack the vote, that’s dispicable outside inteference. But it’s our fault for having a hackable system.
If they hack the vote and put someone in office who will fix the hackable systems, well ....is that so bad?
If they hack the vote and put someone in office who will work to avoid war, while got giving away the store, is that so bad?
If the only inteference is wikileaks shining a light on what are current politicians have done...is that so bad?
So far there is one guy, who happens to have 17 agencies who claims Russia is involved. There have not been statements from 17 different agencies.
Assuming a Trump win, the left will portray him as an illegitimate place holder. Better yet if his alleged political illegitimacy is trumpeted now, when it might dampen the turnout and affect the vote.
The ploy to blame the Russians for hacking was too well timed, choreographed and broadcast to have any credibility. Just more Alinskyism, seeing how much thrown mud can stick to the wall.
There are no Russian Hackers. Democrats have created a scapegoat, or boogie man to win the election. Its a shame the lies that are coming out of DC anymore. It’s a wonder the people don’t rise up and hang everyone on DC
One thing I haven’t heard of in the Russian discussions is WHY Putin would want Trump. Hillary says Putin will make Trump his puppet and it stops there. Some other possibilities
* A strong US economy means a strong world economy - good for everyone
* A reliable US partner is needed to defeat ISIS
* An untrustworthy US president will be a disaster all over the world. Nobody can be Hillary’s ally if they don’t trust her (and why would they). And nobody will know who her enemy really is. And those can change daily based on foundation donations.
Putin may very well be trying to help Trump. And to the advantage of Russia. But maybe not doing it to harm the US - in fact trying to help the US since that also helps the world and Russia. I would expect any world leader to try to influence other elections. And I have no doubt Obama has done it. He certainly seems to have tried to influence Brexit. But US media only cares if the influence goes against their beliefs.
If the Russians hack this election, I will assume that they have hacked the last several.
Personally I think it’s teh DNC doing the hacking and blaming the Russians so if Clinton loses she can blame a vast international conspiracy that has been dogging the Clintons throughout there decades long, tireless efforts fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
“(notice they don’t dispute what the hacks reveal, only who’s doing them)”
This is universal, and it has also been universal in the response of Clinton and her enablers. So, clearly, they are GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!!!!
What bothers me is that Hillary is usually dking herself what she accuses others of doing.
It’s a characteristic of a narcissistic person.
“Thoughts?”
Trump becomes President and first thing he does is announce before the next election, the voting system will be fixed on both a national and local level. This includes:
1 - a purge of all voter rolls of dead people
2 - a purge of all voter rolls of illegal aliens
3 - a purge of all voter rolls of criminals
4 - a recall of every voting machine in the country which will be analyzed for fraud with the manufacturer billed directly and removed from ever doing business in the US again if a machine was found to be tampered with.
5 - A national voter ID card which will get matched up by SS#. (yeah yeah, privacy rights. Fix the system then we can change it up)
6 - Stiffer penalties for voter fraud.
7 - Change laws which say no crossover from media to government and vice versa for a period of two full election cycles. As an example, Stephy went from Clinton to ABC. In this case he would have to wait for 8 years before making the move. If he decided to go back to the Clinton campaign, he would have to wait 8 years after leaving ABC.
8 - Media outlets and their “on-air” personalities cannot donate to a candidate.
9 - Immediate census survey to be done followed by privatization of census.
10 - Polls must quadruple number of surveyed people for greater accuracy and has to be likely voters. Oversampling is illegal.
I think those ten things are a good start.
“Do they really think they would have an easier time negotiating with Trump than with Hillary?”
Nah, they know exactly how to negotiate with Hillary, as demonstrated by their successful negotiations to get our uranium. All they have to do is bribe her and she’ll play along. Trump is the unknown quantity to them.
Can anyone contact them, the Russkies, and beg that they make sure McCain, Graham, & Ryan lose their elections, but that all other Republicans beat Democrats in Congressional & Senate races along with making Trump our President? Just to be safe: /sarcasm (sort of)
You’re sucked into a tangential issuWhat Russia wanted and Clinto made easy was our secrets.
“So, in a stunning upset, the Russians carry Trump over the finish line...”
If Putin really supported Trump, you wouldn’t be reading about it in newspapers. It’s all to cause mistrust. No matter what final results are, a significant share of voters will think it’s due to foreign manipulations. There’s no better strategy than drag your enemy into internal political crisis. Why would they need Trump ? They would love this wuss to go Russian way and stay in office for +20 years.
Purge the voter rolls of dead people, purge illegals, purge criminals ...
How about we just erase all the voter rolls and make everybody register to vote again? In person, with proper ID ... ONLY.