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NSA Can Access More Phone Data Than Ever
abcnews ^ | Oct 20, 2016 | Lee Ferran

Posted on 10/20/2016 11:32:36 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt

Before the signing of the USA Freedom Act in June 2015, one of the NSA's most controversial programs was the mass collection of telephonic metadata
from millions of Americans — the information about calls, including the telephone numbers involved, the time and the duration but not the calls' content
— under a broad interpretation of the Patriot Act's Section 215. From this large "haystack," as officials have called it,
NSA analysts could get approval to run queries on specific numbers purportedly linked to international terrorism investigations.

The problem for the NSA was that the haystack was only about 30 percent as big as it should've been; the NSA database was missing a lot of data.
As The Washington Post reported in 2014, the agency was not getting information from all wireless carriers and it also couldn't handle the deluge of data that was coming in.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: cellphone; metadata; nsa; privacy; usafreedomact
On the technical side, Chris Inglis, who served as the NSA's deputy director until January 2014, recently told ABC News that when major telecommunications companies previously handed over customer records, the NSA "just didn't ingest all of it."

"[NSA officials] were trying to make sure they were doing it exactly right," he said, meaning making sure that the data was being pulled in according to existing privacy policies.
The metadata also came in various forms from the different companies, so the NSA had to reformat much of it before loading it into a searchable database.

Both hurdles meant that the NSA couldn't keep up, and of all the metadata the agency wanted to be available for specific searches internally, only about a third of it actually was.

But then the USA Freedom Act was signed into law, and now Inglis said, all that is "somebody else's problem."

1 posted on 10/20/2016 11:32:36 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

The Snowden disclosures made it clear that metadata is a red herring—and that the NSA can drill down to the real data at will.

While technically they are supposed to go through a judge they have been abusing the process for many years.

Media coverage of this topic has been pathetic.


2 posted on 10/20/2016 11:35:36 AM PDT by cgbg (This space for rent--$250K)
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To: cgbg
Media coverage of this topic has been pathetic

Because they're afraid of being a target of vindictive bureaucrats who exceed their authority with "creative" intepretations of the laws.

3 posted on 10/20/2016 11:37:42 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: cgbg
Media coverage of this topic has been pathetic.

Wars and civil liberties are only issues when a Republican is in office. It has been very quiet from the usual suspects for eight years. The media and our government are a clear and present danger to our Republic.

4 posted on 10/20/2016 11:42:11 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: cgbg
cgbg: " metadata is a red herring—and that the NSA can drill down to the real data at will.. they have been abusing the process for many years.
Media coverage of this topic has been pathetic."

That is why I posted the information here
It is a starting point for understanding discussion.

5 posted on 10/20/2016 11:42:17 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris.”- Colin Powell)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Mass surveillance of Americans will continue unabated no matter who is our next president.


6 posted on 10/20/2016 11:42:48 AM PDT by gdani
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
What's all this NSA data collection about?

It's about using the collected metadata to build social networks.

The NSA has been creating maps of American citizens' social networks

Why do they want to do that?
What could social networks be used for in the hands of government? Consider:

Using Metadata to Find Paul Revere

How will such capabilities be used now?
How They Hunt


Is it already too late?...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated..." US Constitution, Amendment IV.

7 posted on 10/20/2016 11:43:04 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
NSA Can Access More Phone Data Than Ever

Unless of course they get smashed with a hammer.

8 posted on 10/20/2016 11:48:48 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Paine in the Neck

“Is it already too late?...

“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...” US Constitution, Amendment IV. “

Possibly....

KYPD


9 posted on 10/20/2016 12:13:20 PM PDT by petro45acp (" It IS About Islam: exposing the truth about ISIS, Al Qaeda, Iran, and the caliphate" by Glenn Beck)
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To: gdani

paranoia will destroya..


10 posted on 10/20/2016 12:14:33 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
NSA Can Access More Phone Data Than Ever

As I interpret this - The NSA collects everything, but then does not look at specifics UNLESS some fat cat politician declares you are "An Enemy of the State", in which case they have everything. Two questions:

If The 'Beast researched her enemies before by keeping a box of FBI files that "miraculously" appeared in her bedroom, what will she do now? and

Does this mean The Fourth Amendment is now Null and Void?

11 posted on 10/20/2016 12:20:05 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Honest Abe MADE Her Lie, so now She is a pathological LIAR)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Have you waved at the suit behind your computer screen today?


12 posted on 10/20/2016 12:25:24 PM PDT by bgill (From the CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Dr. Johnny Fever was right....

Johnny: [after hearing the sirens] It’s the phone cops. They know what I did here today.
Venus: What are you talking about?
Johnny: They’re coming to get me, man!
Venus: That’s paranoia, man!
Johnny: Wake up, sucker, this is the phone company we’re talking about! They see everything, they know everything, they got their own covert police force! I’m probably wired for sound right now! I gotta get out of here!
Venus: Johnny!
Johnny: Don’t use my name!!


13 posted on 10/20/2016 12:28:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

What junk.

Just believe that every cell phone call, text, and email is captured by the NSA. Also every conversation you have near a mobile phone even if it is “off.”

Their problem is not capturing the date, it’s screening the data for analysis because there is just too much for any human to screen.


14 posted on 10/20/2016 12:41:40 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

What a bomb shell! This just makes my head explode. I’m going to pray to the Egyptian goddess ISIS for guidance and the willpower not to eat allah my snackbars before lunch.


15 posted on 10/20/2016 12:55:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (~Questionable Hillary thinks Putin made me post this!~)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Everything the Federal government does in the name of national security is to increase its coercive control over all law-abiding citizens.

Everything. It. Does.


16 posted on 10/20/2016 2:26:37 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: piytar

Big data not only aggregates disparate data sources and types, it also multiplies it. Regular data bases are relational; data stores build cubes that rely on redundancy to increase speed and depth of searches. It’s not intuitive, but more data aids searching as long as you have the computing power.

Data is not screened; it’s built into a self-referential framework that provides almost instant answers to queries that would bring the most powerful traditional databases to a screeching halt. Welcome to the Borg.


17 posted on 10/20/2016 2:56:37 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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To: antidisestablishment

Wrote an extensive reply. My have been chewed up by the massive DDOS attacks today..

Short version: Good comment.


18 posted on 10/21/2016 3:42:17 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: piytar

Thanks. I would have enjoyed reading the extended version. Lol


19 posted on 10/21/2016 3:54:52 PM PDT by antidisestablishment ( We few, we happy few, we basket of deplorables)
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