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IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE SLAVES
Setting The Record Straight ^ | 3/16/15 | Ronald Dwyer

Posted on 09/23/2016 8:30:47 PM PDT by OneVike

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To: OneVike

I want one. How much is the opening bid?


21 posted on 09/23/2016 9:16:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Fiddlstix

Bookmark ditto


22 posted on 09/23/2016 9:20:37 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: OneVike

I am sure the Soros stooges at Snopes say it is all a myth, never happened.


23 posted on 09/23/2016 9:20:47 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

They got the Southern Poverty Law Center to do that.


24 posted on 09/23/2016 9:27:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: OneVike

25 posted on 09/23/2016 9:36:06 PM PDT by Daffynition (*If you're not gonna tell the truth, then why start talking?*~ Gene Wilder)
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To: OneVike

bump


26 posted on 09/23/2016 9:38:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (We will be one People, under one God, saluting one American flag. --Donald Trump (standing ovation))
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To: OneVike

Thanks for the post, very few people are aware of this part of history.

Irish :)


27 posted on 09/23/2016 9:47:09 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: OneVike

In fairness it is not just the US education system. Few people in the UK know about this either.

The way Irish history is taught in British schools is sort of a semi-apologetic, “we weren’t very nice in Ireland, but you know how it is those Irish are a crazy lot and there wasn’t much else we could do but let’s pass over it, bye-gones be by-gones and all that”, but the slave trade, the oppression of black people by the British Empire is examined in great detail and the guilt trip is imbued in British schoolchildren.

Try telling a British person who has been educated about the crimes of empire that every single crime committed by the British in their empire against blacks and Indians was first tried out against the Irish, the racism, the genocides, the expropriation, the denial of basic human rights, famine, slavery the lot, all were tried out first on the Irish and you’ll be regarded as a bit of a crank.

Now I am not a MOPEr (”MOPE” is used as a term of abuse to describe chip on the shoulder Irish people who regard themselves as the “most oppressed people,ever”). I do realise that the past was a different place and things were done routinely hundreds of years ago that would horrify us today, but the genuine ignorance among British people about the enormity of the crimes committed in Ireland can sometimes be a bit exasperating.

As an example the figure given above about the decline in the Irish population in the mid-seventeenth century. In British schoolbooks that period is referred to as the “English Civil War”. Well, in the “English” civil war about 1% of the population of England died, in Scotland it was 3%, in Ireland it was something like 40%! And yet Ireland will feature as little more than a footnote in British history books discussing the English Civil War.


28 posted on 09/23/2016 9:53:56 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: OneVike

https://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2014/04/01/irish-slavery/


29 posted on 09/23/2016 9:57:01 PM PDT by bronxville (Americanism not Globalism)
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To: OneVike

About 1 1/2 decades ago archeologists found skeletal remains under the basement floor in a very old home in Annapolis, MD. The body via an extensive autopsy showed it to be horrible mistreated when alive. It was said at time that it was thought to be a that of a slave and it was said to be Irish. I was shocked.

Went to Williamsburg shortly there after and start asking questions and sure enough, found out that the first wave of slaves to the colony were the Irish and the Scots. They said some were called indentured servants but they were still bound, treated like cattle and most were never freed.

Won’t argue that the DOE has dumb downed Americans but I went to school prior and had no idea what so ever this was our history.


30 posted on 09/23/2016 9:58:08 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Yes, know Irish history and one knows what’s happening today. Ireland was the English laboratory for eight hundred years.


31 posted on 09/23/2016 10:03:43 PM PDT by bronxville (Americanism not Globalism)
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To: OneVike

My family roots are from Wales. Handed down to me story was that two brothers were kidnapped in Wales and brought to Virginia (late 17th century) to be indentured servants. The King later freed them and gave them a land grant. One of the brothers was my great (so many times) grandfather. So it wasn’t just the Irish and Scots.


32 posted on 09/23/2016 10:03:55 PM PDT by looois
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To: stylin19a

There’s a street in Drogheda called Scarlett Lane - named after the bloody work Oliver Cromwell did there...


33 posted on 09/23/2016 10:10:47 PM PDT by bronxville (Americanism not Globalism)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

” and things were done routinely hundreds of years ago that would horrify us today,’

No. Sounds like ISIS today.

History ALWAYS repeats its self.

Because many people never learn from it.


34 posted on 09/23/2016 10:24:11 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

There is a bit of a difference between the indentured workers and the slaves discussed above.

Indentured servants certainly had a hard time, they worked hard and were treated badly, but they weren’t slaves. They left their homes voluntarily, they owned their own bodies and could not be bought and sold, they were paid pittances until they paid off their indentures but they were paid, they had rights and could appeal to the courts, they could get married to the spouse of their choice and eventually own property.

They had a hard life but they were not slaves.

The people described above were slaves, pure and simple, they were captured and taken in chains to work as slaves and had zero rights, they were treated as animals and could be bought and sold or killed with impunity.

Indentured service and slavery were two very different things.


35 posted on 09/23/2016 10:26:41 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: OneVike

Another little known piece of Irish American History was from the Mexican American War.

Supposedly resulted in the largest mass execution in American military history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Battalion


36 posted on 09/23/2016 10:43:18 PM PDT by jcon40
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To: OneVike

This is basically stormfront junk history.


37 posted on 09/23/2016 10:45:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)
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To: brucedickinson

I’d read that African slaves in mines were insurable but that Irish slaves weren’t because they weren’t worth enough to bother.


38 posted on 09/23/2016 11:00:09 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Bttt


39 posted on 09/23/2016 11:05:54 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: DesertRhino
This is basically stormfront junk history.

Not saying it is not, but on what do you base your claim?

40 posted on 09/23/2016 11:06:11 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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