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To: Trump20162020

If I believed that pollsters do skew polls, then I could believe that they are skewing them now to make Trump look better. Hillary’s biggest problem is complacent Dems, and she needs them to be scared of Trump for them to get out and get organizized.


6 posted on 09/07/2016 4:17:49 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: babble-on

Pretty much. If pollsters were going to fake anything, they’d be doing it for Trump right now. Then move the polls towards Clinton after the September 26 debate, to manufacture a “Trump blew it; Clinton won” meme.


8 posted on 09/07/2016 4:20:16 AM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: babble-on

Polls must employ some kind of turnout model. One can call it Skewing if one thinks the turnout model overly optimistic for one of the choices. On election day we will find out which models are skewed...but msnbc is smoking hopium when they use a 2012 model.


21 posted on 09/07/2016 5:11:00 AM PDT by AndyTheBear (Hating Islam is the natural consequence of caring about people in the Middle East, including Muslims)
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To: babble-on
"If I believed that pollsters do skew polls..."

That's like saying, "If I believed that professional politicians lie..."

Polls used to be a tool for learning the voters' preference(s). They are now used to shape those same preferences. Instead of measuring or weighing, they are trying to condition how we vote by showing us that our guy "just can't win."

Look at the "Brexit" vote. Polls had Brexit losing by 10 points on the morning of the election! They were trying to shape public opinion, and THE VOTE OUTCOME!!!!

So why did Brexit win by 10%, a 20 point shift from the AM "polls."

THE POLLS LIE AND LIE AND LIE!!!!!!!! You moron!

Saying "Trump has a 2-point lead" when his lead is actually 20 points isn't telling 'some of the truth.' It's an effing lie. Effing DB.

32 posted on 09/07/2016 5:33:22 AM PDT by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: babble-on

I believe you’re right. Clinton is one of the least liked (most disliked) candidates in history. She does not rally the base. Her scandals and obvious health problems make active campaigning difficult. The ‘rats are facing a very low turnout. They’ve got to find something to spur the faithful. Look for the ‘rats to demonize Trump in any and every way possible, from the silly to the down-right nasty. This is an all-in election for the Clintons (all of them). Hillary wins, or they are probably looking at not just the collapse of their power empire, but very probably serious prison time too.


38 posted on 09/07/2016 5:49:56 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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