Posted on 09/05/2016 10:48:04 AM PDT by NRx
Director: Mel Gibson; Starring: Andrew Garfield, Teresa Palmer, Vince Vaughn, Sam Worthington, Hugo Weaving, Rachel Griffiths. Cert tbc, 131 mins.
What could have possibly attracted Mel Gibson to the story of Desmond Doss, a man whose unconventional religious beliefs made him a pariah among his peers, but who, once the system had learned to grudgingly accommodate him, worked wonders and saved souls through sheer force of conviction? Desmond was a committed Seventh Day Adventist and pacifist who served as a US Army medic at Okinawa, saving 75 lives without ever lifting a weapon – and the curiously ideal subject for what is unquestionably going to be viewed as Gibson’s comeback movie.
Hacksaw Ridge is a fantastically moving and bruising war film that hits you like a raw topside of beef in the face – a kind of primary-coloured Guernica that flourishes on a big screen with a crowd. It is Gibson’s first film as director since Apocalypto in 2006 – and, more pertinently, since a string of scandals and public disgraces toxified his career in the years that followed. Its story of an outcast finding redemption through superhuman levels of suffering is pure Gibson: you could even call it the third part of an unofficial trilogy that also takes in Apocalypto and The Passion of the Christ (2004), except you sense Gibson will return in future to this story again and again, perhaps because of a deep-seated suspicion it may also be his.
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Braveheart and Apocalypto are both fun movies to watch - I will check out this new one by Gibson.
Um, I guess you missed Gibson's We Were Soliders
My opinion was on why Hollywood liked this movie.
Go ahead and tell everyone why you think Hollywood likes this movie.
Otherwise, save your sanctimonious scrawl for someone else.
There are a group of people on Free Republic who really want to show everyone how righteous they are and they aren’t the least afraid to make up words for other people.
It’s not that simple. The SDA church is not anti-Catholic, per se. If their understanding of Biblical prophecy is correct, the Catholic church will be one of the end time forces that persecutes God’s people, who is anybody that is faithful to God regardless of their understanding of Scripture. When you consider Pope Francis’ statements, since becoming the Pope, can you really say that this understanding is incorrect and will not come to pass?
My personal view has changed a bit. If recent events are any indicator, the reason why both the US and the Catholic church become the persecutors of God’s people, rather than being the protector and defenders is because both have become infiltrated and controlled by Islam.
Yet somehow you manage to whine when one’s story gets told
I met a National Guard medivac helicopter pilot two weeks ago that said he didn’t have what it took to be an attack helicopter pilot but had a passion to get the wounded to the hospital. I told him I was proud of him.
I have always been torn on consciencious objectors. On one hand you have men like this, and their bravery and devotion to duty is quite impressive. On the other hand, one enemy soldier, that passes in front of the objectors would be rifle sights, can cause 75 casualties.
The bloody battle for Okinawa: Veterans recall the luck, grit that got them through
By Matthew M. Burke
Stars and Stripes
Published: August 5, 2015
http://www.stripes.com/news/special-reports/world-war-ii-the-final-chapter/features/the-bloody-battle-for-okinawa-veterans-recall-the-luck-grit-that-got-them-through-1.360127
“One night, after hunkering down with three others a short ways down the slope from Needle Rock, on Hacksaw Ridge, a Japanese grenade landed in the middle of them. The enemy had crawled up to their position under cover of darkness.”
Here’s something better:
“The eastern end of the Urasoe-Mura Escarpment dominated the 96th Division front in the center of the line. It loomed directly ahead on the division right-a huge, forbidding, sheer cliff. The part of the escarpment lying within the 96th Division zone was called by the division the “Maeda Escarpment” after the village of Maeda, situated just over the crest on the reverse (south) slope. It was also called “Hacksaw Ridge” and the “Big Escarpment.” The hill mass centering on the eastern end of the Urasoe-Mura Escarpment was often called Hill 196 in the official reports.9 (See Map No. XXX.)”’
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http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/okinawa/chapter11.htm
See page 274.
Thanks. I was in the Marine Corps, so my knowledge of army operations on Okinawa is lacking.
“The SDA church is not anti-Catholic, per se.”
Yes, it is. It’s founder was anti-Catholic. It’s publications are historically anti-Catholic. It’s adherents are steeped in anti-Catholicism.
http://www.chnetwork.org/story/seventh-day-adventists-long-way-home/
“If their understanding of Biblical prophecy is correct,”
It isn’t. It was born out of Miller’s error after all.
“...the Catholic church will be one of the end time forces that persecutes God’s people, who is anybody that is faithful to God regardless of their understanding of Scripture. When you consider Pope Francis’ statements, since becoming the Pope, can you really say that this understanding is incorrect and will not come to pass?”
Yes, I can absolutely say that that understanding is incorrect and will not come to pass. Also, SDA has no Biblical understanding. What it has is an understanding of EG White’s understanding of scripture. It has an interpretation of an interpretation. Started with an error, compounded with more errors, resulting in SDA stupidity. Here’s an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarius_Filii_Dei#Seventh-day_Adventist_views
“My personal view has changed a bit. If recent events are any indicator, the reason why both the US and the Catholic church become the persecutors of God’s people, rather than being the protector and defenders is because both have become infiltrated and controlled by Islam.”
There is no infiltration by Islam at all. Name one Catholic prelate who is actually a Muslim. Can you? Nope. You can’t. You can name plenty of people - including Protestants - who say or do stupid things about Islam but if there are no prelates who are actually Muslim then there is no infiltration. Seriously, take the red pill and join reality.
Certainly not as well known as the Korean War ‘Pork Chop Hill’. In both cases, informal names given by those who were there, not the official designations.
Watch and wait.
Mel Gibson has made some of the best dramas about history ever put on film for this popcorn muncher. Some were controversial to be sure, but I can tolerate another persons point of view.
“Watch and wait.”
We should all be vigilant - but some things are already known. EG White was wrong just as Miller is wrong just as SDA is wrong. Done.
Calling attention to the errors of the Catholic church that have crept into it or calling attention to its role of it’s last days actions, as indicated by Scripture, is not anti-Catholic.
As far as Miller goes, he was in error and it failed to come to pass. However, the SDA’s doctrines were not created by him, but by people who spent years letting the Bible speak for itself.
Do you still think the Vatican will always defend God’s people?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3466205/posts
“Calling attention to the errors of the Catholic church that have crept into it...”
“Errors” according to the SDA - which only exists because of an error - an “error” which is universally regarded as an error by every Christian and every Christian denomination on earth by the way. It’s not a matter of interpretation.
“...or calling attention to its role of it’s last days actions, as indicated by Scripture, is not anti-Catholic.”
It is hubris at the very least for a 19th century group born out of an error - an objective error universally recognized as such - and groomed into a sect by a woman whose writings are regarded as being on a par with scripture by the SDA to pass judgment on any other religious group. The SDA was not founded by Christ. The SDA was founded by a woman. The SDA was not founded in the first century. It was founded in the 19th. The SDA uses EG White’s writings to interpret the Bible which shows they are completely wrong headed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspiration_of_Ellen_G._White The SDA really is not in a position theologically, morally, historically, logically, or biblically to discern anything or anyone.
“As far as Miller goes, he was in error and it failed to come to pass.”
Correct.
“However, the SDA’s doctrines were not created by him,”
The movement that became the SDA, however, was. An SDA affiliated group runs his home as a museum for crying out loud: http://www.adventistheritage.org/
“but by people who spent years letting the Bible speak for itself.”
False. EG White determined what the Bible said for them. And that’s the truth and that is the sign of their sickness.
We recognize Miller’s role in how the SDA church came about, but he was not a founder of the SDA church. He was just part of the mass movement and interest that thousands across America, at the time, had in regards to Bible prophecy and doctrines. The SDA church coalesced as a result of this interest by thousands of people.
I will agree to you that some of its positions were reflected by the biases of the 19th century, like not understanding Islam still being a threat, despite being a completely beaten enemy at this time and there was some anti-Catholic bias as well, because that also reflected general America at the time. No Catholic could seek a public position at the time, the American people would not have allowed it. In this regard, the SDA church was reflecting the time it was born into.
However, having said that, the substance of what the SDA church teaches, America and the Catholic church becoming persecutors of God’s people, will come to pass. It will come to pass, but it will come to pass for reasons that nobody in the 19th century could have thought possible, Islam.
“Do you still think the Vatican will always defend God’s people?”
Yes - especially since, “There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.” The real people of God today are Christians.
Modern, secular Israel will come and maybe go, but 1 Peter 2:9 is here until the end.
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