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FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed From Consumer Soaps
NBC ^ | September 2, 2016 | Maggie Fox

Posted on 09/05/2016 4:06:17 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Say goodbye to those "antibacterial" soaps. The Food and Drug Administration says they do little or nothing to make soap work any better and said the industry has failed to prove they're safe.

Companies will have a year to take the ingredients out of the products, the FDA said. They include triclosan and triclocarban. Soap manufacturers will have an extra year to negotiate over other, less commonly used ingredients such as benzalkonium chloride.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: antibacterialsoap; benzalkoniumchloride; bureaucracy; meddling; overreach; soap; triclocarban; triclosan
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To: SoFloFreeper
The irony. They banned antibacterials from soap but not tooth paste. Gives a new reason to wash some people's mouth out with soap.


21 posted on 09/05/2016 4:42:31 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: jsanders2001

Started way before Obama. Little Bush signed the act which phased out incandescent light bulbs. Then there’s the low flow toilets and showerheads.


22 posted on 09/05/2016 4:45:46 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

My friend that is a Dr. Told me last year this was coming. He also said at a conference they told him that many of the antibiotics that they have been giving are not working great anymore. People are building a tolerance to them. Eventually, there are going to be a great many people die of things that we used to give antibiotics for but they will fail. There hasn’t been a new good antibiotic in a long time.


23 posted on 09/05/2016 4:51:14 AM PDT by ladyellen
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To: Don W
While there is little to no evidence that antibacterial soaps have any positive effect in non-clinical settings, there *IS* a lot of evidence that the improper use of these products is contributing to the emergence of so called “super bugs”: bacteria that have become resistant to the agents used in these soaps.

A sort of "survival of the fittest" at the microbial level, where only or largely the resistant types live on to pass their genes to the next generation.

It’s like folks who insist on antibiotic medications when they get a cold: it hardens the bacteria in their bodies while having no effect on the virus. This makes the antibiotic less effective for all who inadvertently are exposed to those same hardened bacteria later on.

Another excellent point. Bacteria and viruses are two completely different beasts.

*IF* the public were better informed by the responsible parties, then there wouldn’t be any call for the above actions, as a well-informed populace would shun these products for their own good. Unfortunately, the powers-that-be have been quite successful in dumbing down the people, and the manufacturers are more than happy to profit from the public’s lack of knowledge.

I find it incredible that in this information age we're living in, we actually seem to be getting dumber as a people.

24 posted on 09/05/2016 4:52:47 AM PDT by ETL (God PLEASE help America...Never Hillary!)
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To: OwenKellogg

These cretins have to go...the lot of them.


25 posted on 09/05/2016 4:57:12 AM PDT by Shady (We are at war again......this time for our lives...)
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To: ETL
I find it incredible that in this information age we're living in, we actually seem to be getting dumber as a people.

Idiocracy. All we need now is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

26 posted on 09/05/2016 4:58:12 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: laweeks
Yep . . . “antibacterials” is right there in our Constitution, along with “penumbra”, “privacy”, and “1 gallon per flush.” Go look.

I don't see "soap police" there in the Article I, Section 8.

The Federal Leviathan has been a tyrannical usurper far too long.

27 posted on 09/05/2016 4:58:32 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: knarf

That’s ovarian cancer, not cervical cancer the talcum powder is supposed to cause.

How in the Hell they got talcum powder that far up the pipes is beyond me.


28 posted on 09/05/2016 5:01:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (America has given itself over to evil. The Almighty will give it the government it deserves.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A friend of mine is a Canadian importer of a German antiseptic lotion used in hospitals. He’s said the same thing about all the various consumer hand sanitizers on the market, namely that they’re a waste of money. The principal active ingredient in the product he imports is Isopropyl Alcohol in a concentration that does kill bacteria and even some viruses (tested successfully against HIV). And it smells like it. The last time I checked the product is not FDA approved (maybe because of the years and enormous expense in gaining approvals) and unavailable in the United States. It’s annoying that the FDA focuses its attention on banning what they perceive as ineffective products while being so slow on the uptake of new and effective ones that are commonplace elsewhere.


29 posted on 09/05/2016 5:05:41 AM PDT by katana
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To: bert
"The market has no control over residual bacteria that survive the purge and as the survivors are free to grow in a world where they can’t be killed."

Are we talking about bacteria or Democrat voters?

30 posted on 09/05/2016 5:22:28 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: OwenKellogg
Does this apply to dentists, surgeons, and other medical personnel?

Applies to everyone. Fortunately dentists and surgeons use effective disinfectants prior to doing their work.

Not sure what is so confusing about NO DATA supports the use of triclosan in handsoaps. No Data. So in a free market you can add hydrochloric acid to your soap. If your free market agrees to a regulatory agency to monitor for safety and efficacy it will ask for DATA to support claims for acid in your soap. If you cannot show that the acid does anything the risks of including it will mean it has to go. That's how it works.

For over 30 years these manufacturers have deflected the call for DATA and now the time is over for including these drugs and claiming they do something when they do not.

31 posted on 09/05/2016 5:25:26 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: knarf
Phisohex

Taken off the market in 1971 and now available by prescription only. It was claimed that the active ingredient causes brain damage.

32 posted on 09/05/2016 5:36:59 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Don W

Your analysis is correct. Regular soap is fine for washing our hands - it is a surfactant that reduces surface tension, allowing water to rinse away dirt (and, this, germs). What is left can AND SHOULD, be dealt with by our immune system. This benefits us in 2 ways: first, it strengthens our immune systems; second, it doesn’t strengthen the resistor bacteria.

This is long overdue. Regarding “government interference,” it is well within the FDA’s mandate to stop misleading advertising related to health matters. Frankly, I wonder what took them so long.


33 posted on 09/05/2016 5:41:52 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: corkoman

It is impossible to “prove” something is “safe”, at the levels the FDA now demands.

Everything is toxic at some level, too much oxygen or water will surely kill you.

Proving something is *effective* is another matter.


34 posted on 09/05/2016 5:47:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Ancesthntr; Don W

Corrections:

1) and, THUS, germs

2) second, it doesn’t strengthen the RESISTANCE OF bacteria.


35 posted on 09/05/2016 5:47:51 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: bert

Some soap products already had removed the anti bacterials from their products. I noticed this right around the time the price went up on the product I was using. That was right after the size of the average container went down also. So, I am paying roughly double for the same amount of a less effective product. Marketing meets the FDA and they win.


36 posted on 09/05/2016 5:55:48 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Ancesthntr

It kills the weaker/more susceptible bacteria, thereby leaving the stronger/less susceptible ones.

I always considered the word germs to be a catch-all for the various pathogens out there, be they bacteria, or virii.

Dictionary:

3. germ (n.)
a minute life form (especially a disease-causing bacterium); the term is not in technical use


37 posted on 09/05/2016 5:57:33 AM PDT by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: knarf
I am not a big fan of the author John Grisham (has a vacation home down the street from me)because of his lib agenda but his book King of Torts is great reading for those who disdain the class action product liability industry. The use of the TV ad dragnet is one of the techniques lampooned in the story.
38 posted on 09/05/2016 5:59:28 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Don W

Origin and Etymology of germ

French germe, from Latin germin-, germen, from gignere to beget —


I knew germ had to be a French word..................


39 posted on 09/05/2016 6:05:21 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Don W
"It kills the weaker/more susceptible bacteria, thereby leaving the stronger/less susceptible ones."

Wouldn't this same logic apply to the use of any soap?

40 posted on 09/05/2016 6:08:06 AM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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