Posted on 08/28/2016 6:47:10 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
One of our forum's top campaign hawks, impy, has just warned me that the Virginia GOP is planning to do away with the standard convention process in 2017.
"Virginia is ditching their state convention method of choosing 2017 nominees for Gov/LT Gov/AG, going to a primary. Passed on a 41-40 vote by the State Central Committee , seen as a power play by RINOS to take power from conservative activists..." -- impy
I went to google. Hardly anything about it, just some vague headline referring to a debate 'this weekend'.
We in Virginia have experienced very strange primary antics in the recent past. It would not surprise me if this is true.
[Wait a minute — isn’t this good news? Opposite of my take?]
Virginia GOP votes 41-40 to switch and nominate 2017 statewide candidates in a primary - Roanoke Times: Politics
http://www.ooyuz.com/geturl?aid=12947099
By the slimmest of margins, leaders of the Republican Party of Virginia on Saturday voted to select their 2017 statewide candidates in a primary rather than at a convention — a nominating change that could have significant implications for a host of Republicans planning runs for governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general next year. The 41-40 vote by the GOP’s State Central Committee effectively upended a compromise agreement reached last year by factions within the state party that calle..
So, why is a primary election that allows ALL GOP voters to participate DIRECTLY in a one-person-one-vote process that directly determines the outcome a negative compared to an arcane process that involves a laddered group of meetings attended only by party insiders?
Nothing is more important to the setablishment than preventing the citizens from stopping the Cheap Labor Express.
They are not about to allow us to reverse 30 years of bipartisan policy of non-enforcement of immigration laws.
That is what all the internal wrangling inside the GOP is about at every level.
I don’t know the details but I’ve watched the RINO’s dirty tricks and back stabbing over the years down in Virginia.
From the days of Warner versus Obenshain to their dirty dealings with Ollie North and Mike Farris and the list goes on and on.
The ‘cardboard conservatives’ don’t want real ones running the GOP and they’ll keep changing the rules until they can control the party completely.
The RINO’s need to have the freedom to control government against the conservative positions. Like when the lame duck GOP governor Bob McDonnell raised taxes.
I agree. That’s why I started this with a ‘?’
It was viewed as some as a betrayal, but it might be something to celebrate.
I had assumed the worst, but shifting to a straight primary without a convention is probably a good thing, right?
It seems to me that a convention can be ‘rigged’ easier than a primary election.
I hope you’re having a good laugh at my expense!
You only quoted the concerns of ‘some’.
I believe you are correct!
I’ve made a fool out of myself assuming the worst without sufficient knowledge.
I support the primary but I do wish it were a run off style primary.
You mean a follow-up vote between the top two?
Only if the conservatives can win it but the GOPe sees a primary as an opportunity to marshal their forces to win the contests.
Flood the primary contests with big bank and big business money for starters and probably some new tactics like bringing Democrats into the GOP with voter registrations drives or old ones like creating primary rules like they did for POTUS back in 2012.
The GOPe required so large a number of signatures it ended up being Ron Paul versus Mitt Romney with other candidates shut out in the 2012 POTUS primary.
This year’s decision to go proportional delegates in VA on the POTUS primary was also part of a strategy to dilute any conservative support and hopefully spread a majority out among the RINO’s and fake conservatives.
The convention of committed conservatives format in VA has given the GOP candidates who are conservative over the years like Ollie North for US Senate or Mike Farris for Lt. Governor and so on.
Dear Mr. Wildfire!
There is an invention called a telephone!
Maybe you heard! of it.
It predates Google! I hear.
On Monday!, you can call! the Virginia! GOP and ask.
Then you can tell! us.
‘The GOPe required so large a number of signatures it ended up being Ron Paul versus Mitt Romney with other candidates shut out in the 2012 POTUS primary.’
Right, that was ODIOUS.
I do prefer a straight primary without convention meddling, but if no one has a solid win of votes [within a tiny percentage of all the rest combined], then we should have a runoff vote between the top two. That would be perfection.
Are you kidding? A telephone?
Hey, maybe you’re right. But waiting until Monday makes it ‘old news’.
We won against Cantor in a primary.
I’d say we have a better chance this way.
I don’t trust the GOP on the phone anyway. If they don’t respond with plain text [regarding primaries], it isn’t worth a dime.
You’re right. And it’s epsecially great if they have a runoff vote if there’s a ticket splitter. Not sure if we have that option.
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