Posted on 08/20/2016 5:26:20 AM PDT by rickmichaels
Donald Trump says the 2016 election will be "rigged." He has even suggested, despite very little evidence of actual voter fraud in the United States, that it's the only way he might lose a state like Pennsylvania.
We shouldn't be surprised if this message catches on — if there is substantial questioning of an outcome in which he loses, especially in a close race. I laid out my case for why earlier this week.
And now, more polling data suggests this is fertile territory for Trump to plant seeds of doubt in case he loses. Trump backers this year, it turns out, are uniquely skeptical of the vote-counting process.
In new Pew poll, just 11 percent of Trump backers say they are "very" confident that the votes in the 2016 election will be counted accurately. Another 37 percent are "somewhat" confident, and half of the GOP nominee's supporters are either "not too" (31 percent) or "not at all" (19 percent) confident.
In contrast, 49 percent of Clinton supporters are "very" confident, and only 20 percent are either "not too" or "not at all" confident.
What's especially interesting about the Pew numbers is that they indicate the shoe was once on the other foot.
Back in 2004, it was Democratic voters who were more concerned about inaccurate vote counts. When Pew asked how confident they were that their own votes would be accurately counted — a more personal version of the previous question — 48 percent of Democrats said they were "very" confident, while 75 percent of Republicans were.
This was very likely the lingering effects of a contested 2000 presidential election — Florida, "hanging chads" and all that — which wound up going Republicans' way.
But even then, Democratic voters were more confident in the vote-counting process than Republicans are now. Today, even without a similar recent controversy for Republicans to point to, those numbers are 67 percent for Democrats to just 38 percent for Republicans.
So, to reiterate, even after a 2000 election in which many Democrats thought Florida election officials essentially miscounted votes and handed the presidency to George W. Bush, Democratic voters were still more confident about the vote-counting process than Trump voters are today.
Now, this doesn't mean that the vast majority of Trump backers are expecting a totally "rigged" election. It's possible that they think the inaccuracies would be too small to matter — and that the inaccuracies might not be deliberate. Miscounting votes is not the same thing as large-scale voter fraud.
But as I wrote earlier this week, other data does indicate that many Republicans believe there could be rather large-scale voter fraud. A majority of Wisconsin Republicans — 54 percent — said in 2014 that fraud of one type or another moves thousands of votes in the state in every election, despite a lack of evidence to back up that theory.
And with the 2016 GOP nominee pushing that idea hard, it seems quite possible to catch on.
“When poll watchers from one party are forced out of precincts.... that is evidence of voter fraud.”
We should find ways to sign up to be Dem poll watchers.
What I’ve read on this indicates that the Democrat practice is to get their pals in the crooked polling outfits to put out polls showing the desired outcome, say a few % edge for Hillary, then to have their other crooked pals manipulate the vote outcome (through various means including ballot-box stuffing and hacking the electronic voting machines) to produce exactly that result. This way they can validate their polls and get their candidate at the same time.
I am skeptical but if this is anywhere near true, the only way to beat it is for Trump to WAY outperform at the ballot box, and win by a margin that they can’t cheat to overcome.
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A case in point.A year or two ago I went to my Town Hall to cast an absentee ballot for an upcoming election.I asked the clerk if she needed my ID and she said,in an incredulous tone,"no".Struck by this answer I then asked her if people registering to vote in the Town were required to show ID.Again,she gave a firm "no" and explained that (Massachusetts) state law *specifically* forbids voter registration officials to ask for ID when registering a person.
On another occasion I asked a polling station official (same Town) who was to hand me my ballot if he needed my ID.He laughed as he told me he didn't.
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Government jobs such as say a “DMV clerk” or “Social Security Clerk” are given priority to spanish or arab speaking sorts so said multilingual clerks can understand “THEIR” language versus the applicant being forced to learn english or bringing an english speaking friend, family or co-worker with them.
Thus the camels nose is not in the tent, the camel is not even in the tent, the camel is dragging the trashed tent down the road to destruction now as the enemy is in the wire per se.
Polls show Trump within single digit points of the Clintonista Cartel with MSM/RNC/DNC 100% against him 24/7. Sort of a little propaganda “honey” to make that foul tasting voter fraud easier to shove down the steeple’s throats in november.
Just my opinion on the matter.... stay safe Liz.
That happens all the time on college campuses.
Students registered in the home county, go to college someplace and are signed-up by the “vote or die” nazis, then they cast absentee ballot in their home country and vote in person where they attend college.
If the home county and college county are different, there is no way to catch this because there is no de-confliction/validation process to ensure no multiple voting.
Nails it. Plus revving up the MSM against Trump....combines to force us to swallow her as the "winner."
I knew Donetta Davidson when she was Secretary of State for Colorado. Worked with her on a few projects. The amount of known illegal voting was staggering. Over 25% of the names on the voter register list in Colorado was improper, and there was still more to remove. Since then, the democrats have resorted to massive voter fraud that erased all that she did.
despite very little evidence of actual voter fraud in the United States,
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There’s plenty of evidence of vote fraud, every election, but the Ministry of Propaganda likes to pretend it doesn’t exist.
Welcome to Virginia
Unless the receipt is the basis for counting votes, it is meaningless.
Very optimistic of them.
Presidential election 2008, Alexandria, VA.
Wife and I went to the polling placer and it was packed to the gills.
We went inside to the waiting room and there was a couple dozen “day workers” (illegals) in the corner of the room.
There was one guy that spoke English (the boss) and as one of his “workers” was called by name, the “worker” went by the boss and the boss spoke spanich to the guy and looked through a stack of papers to find two pieces of mail to “prove” residency and such, and the “worker” was given a slip of paper with “democrat” printed on it. The ‘worker’ went to the polling device and did the straight democrat vote and went outside and waited next to the mini-van.
Also observed two Egyptian men (I traveled a lot to Egypt and could recognize the accent and dialect) and between them was their mother. She was clearly incompetent, staring, mouth open and drooling (son wiping her chin), no blinking of eyes, not responding to anything going on around her. She also had palsy of some sort, hands trembling and head jerking.
Her name was called and she on;y moved when one of the sons took her, shuffling slowly, to the voting machine. I could see the screen from my position and watched the son take the mother’s hand as he pushed her fingers to the touch-screen to vote. The mother never looked around, said a word, was clearly incompetent. But yet, the son voted “for” her.
One poll watcher, he raised the issue and was shouted down by the dems in the room and the other poll watchers didn’t do a darned thing to stop the fraud taking place.
I knew the election was over, that it was being stolen right in front of my eyes.
Trump needs to beat the margin of fraud. It is hard to say what that margin actually is, but I suspect it is more than 5%.
Lots of evidence, even backed up by academic studies. . .several, too include:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Do-Non-Citizens-Vote-in-US-Elections-Richman-et-al.pdf
and
http://ww2.odu.edu/~jrichman/NonCitizenVote.pdf
I urge the Trump campaign staff to establish a “how to report voter fraud” hotline and do so ASAP. Put the information in an ad with how to document it and report the fraud that was witnessed or heard about. It would be worth the expense.
Everyone with fraud to report, do so immediately. I also urge the Trump campaign staff to have a team of lawyers ready to document all reports of voter fraud. Video proof would also be quite helpful with date, time, names (if possible). Perhaps there are retired law enforcement all over the country willing to donate their time to this effort. Veteran volunteers would be very helpful as well.
Any Freepers working on the campaign, please suggest this to the Trump staff.
Put the information in an ad with how to document it and report the fraud that was witnessed or heard about. It would be worth the expense.....anyone with fraud to report, do so immediately.
I also urge the Trump campaign staff to have a team of lawyers ready to document all reports of voter fraud. Video proof would also be quite helpful with date, time, names (if possible). Perhaps there are retired law enforcement all over the country willing to donate their time to this effort. Veteran volunteers would be very helpful as well.
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Judging history, 11 seems a bit high. No voter should believe there to be no fraud found. Some fraud is not even buried, just out there in plain sight. With every national election fraud becomes more prevalent and extreme. The R party has been played for pansies for years. Please, ballots found in a trunk? It’s time each and every patriot voter became an activist to make our voting system honest and transparent once again.
This is of even more importance this election cycle... Electronic votes will be done on an internet system which will no longer be under US control. BO’B will be handing the reins over to the globalists before Nov. elections.
Dhimmicrats, Marxists and Muslims have it in their codes of conduct that lying, cheating, stealing and even murder is a fair and if necessary, recommended means to take over.
You get involved in your local precincts, you have a voice, your Precinct Captains talk to other precinct Captains and then your voice becomes stronger...
This is the way you build up your power in your State, start at the ground level and work up...
I talk to people who knock on doors, I talk to people on phone calls, I talk to people in my Church, I talk to people in the grocery stores, the Library, the book stores, the service stations, the Ice Cream Parlor...you use your voice, as you meet people in your pricent you invite them and they invite their friends...
Don't expect to get Trump in the White House just by posting on here, yes this is a great information site, but this isn't going to get him in office, out there in your towns is what is going to get him into office, so get involved, that's how you win!!!
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