Posted on 08/17/2016 7:53:55 PM PDT by EinNYC
POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y. — Fire commissioners in upstate New York have ordered a department to take American flags off its trucks, sparking a heated online debate.
The Poughkeepsie Journal reports the flags were removed Tuesday from the Arlington Fire District trucks in the town of Poughkeepsie following Monday’s order.
(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Civilians flee from the sound of gunfire.
Civilians flee from the smoke and flame.
Marines (and Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen) rush forward to confront the guns.
Fire Fighters rush forward to confront the smoke and flame.
One group uses rifles and bayonets.
One group uses axes and hoses.
Underneath the uniforms, all the SAME BAND OF BROTHERS.
Brave men who rush to arms, so that others can sleep safe in their beds.
He looks like he picks his toes in Poughkipsie
When you’ve got a fire truck barrelassing down the road towards you at breakneck speed with lights flashing, horns blowing and sirens going off, you’d either have to be a Muslim or some other America-hating “immigrant” to be “distracted” by an American flag.
During Desert Storm, the City Manager of Union City California issued a similar order and prohibited firefighters from wearing flag pins on duty. In response, one Fire captain had his hair shaved and dyed in a Stars and Stripes image. I wonder what these guys will do to send a message.
Great point.
He needs the Popeye treatment for picking his feet.
No. I’s copying and pasting what the local papers said in their articles. Not being there and assessed of the whole problem, I am not qualified to make that decision. It is their responsibility. I just displayed what I saw and read.
But if the flags haves caused some problems, to my knowledge the fire departments of the upper state NY areas are city/state employees.They fall under state jurisdiction.
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Someone from Ithaca probably moved into town and the cancer started.
Ithicans are a virus.
In Poughkeepsie?
I may not have read the article as well as I should have, but does it say why they’re being forced to remove the flags?
If it’s local politicians, caving to some outside pressure, why aren’t the mayor and council people being recalled right effin’ now?
Thank you very much for the flag. I saved it to files.
The ‘Fire Chief’ appears to be borderline retarded. His T-shirt pretty much confirms this.
Byron’s right about a picture being worth it’s weight in gold.
I wonder if that is his car illegally parked in front of the fire hydrant across the street?
Hey, “New York Values” and all that....
"...Arlington Fire Commissioners Board Chairman Jim Beretta tells the newspaper the majority of the board saw the flags as a “liability during normal operations for our people and other motorists.”..."
Seems to me it is a common sense move to promote safety and effective operation during a fire emergency.
Folks, we've got bigger fish fry.
You gotta draw the line somewhere.
A small “Embassy” flag might be appropriate. Painted flags are even better.
If a three-foot flag is good, wouldn’t a five-foot flag be better? Why not mount a small pole in the back and fly a twenty-food flag. As long as it fits below the underpasses, what is the objection?
You gotta draw the line somewhere. This is all quibbling about where this particular line was drawn.
As a former resident of the Arlington Fire District and current owner of several properties in the District, allow me to offer some local insight: Two of the three board members who voted to remove the flag are not anti-American libtards. They were elected to the board of fire commissioners (as was one of the broad members who voted to keep the flags) as the Tea Party candidates campaigning on a pledge of fiscal responsibility and open government. Indeed, up until the election of the third Tea Party candidate this past December, the Board of Fire Commissioners had been controlled by spend-thrift union thugs who often operated under the radar and out of public view, and rubber-stamped massive increases in the number of full-time firemen, wages, benefits, travel to exotic places (under the excuse of “training”), and no-bid contracts, to the point where the fire tax assessed against the owners of real property has sky rocketed over the last 20 years. (Twenty years ago, the fire department was nearly all volunteer, and now, thanks to the union thugs, it is nearly all professional.) Indeed, the fire tax is now higher than the the town and county tax combined with a 400% increase over the last ten years.
The flags at issue are 7’ x 4’. They fly from the back of the trucks where the firemen need unimpeded access to firefighting and other emergency equipment. In high winds, the flapping flags could easily interfere with access to the equipment in situations where seconds lost can mean the difference between life and death. There is also the risk of a flag breaking loose during high speed transit, and landing on the windshield of another vehicle, creating a dangerous situation.
Hanging the flags from the fire truck 24/7 in all weather conditions and without illumination at night also violates federal law on the display and care of the American flag.
Lastly, all of the fire trucks and emergency vehicles already have large decals that predominately display the flag for all to see. The flag is also displayed on all uniforms in patch form, and on many helmets and personal equipment in decal form. Huge flags fly from a large pole in front of each of the fire houses in the district.
In my opinion, this is a controversy created by union thugs so that their candidates can campaign on the flag controversy in an effort to take back control of the board of fire commissioners at the next election, and return to the days of fiscal irresponsibility, uncontrolled spending, backroom deals, exotic travel, no bid contracts, and patronage appointments.
Well, Mr. E they have removed the symbols of Southern tradition and heritage. While the crowd cheered. Mow that they have finished with the South, they will start to work on the North. Removing the American Flag from firetrucks is only the beginning. Welcome to the club, And enjoy the ride, it is going to be bumpy.
I just saw that on the news this morning. I thought these were stickers or painted flags, but these were the real thing. I’d have to agree. Paint the things on so they can’t fall off, fly in traffic or become tattered and disrespectful. Not really a big deal.
Don’t a lot of cities and states have ordinances against flying banners from vehicles?
Here is a suggestion for the boys in the fire department.
Park the trucks.
See how many fires it takes to get the public to tell the traitors to STFU.
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