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Donald Trump: "We're Having a Problem"
Yahoo Politics ^ | 8/16 | Josh Lederman

Posted on 08/16/2016 5:34:51 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

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To: bgill
I can’t believe Utah isn’t behind him.

They may not be behind him but they certainly aren't for Hillary either. Trump is going to take Utah. It may be by five or six points rather than the near 50 point margin Romney racked up, but Utah will go for the Trump.

101 posted on 08/16/2016 6:39:41 AM PDT by Lower Deck
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102 posted on 08/16/2016 6:39:46 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Zathras
My conservative friends in the Mormon Church are being ordered to support Hillary. They are following orders.

Maybe they will follow orders. Or maybe in the privacy of the voting both, with only God and their consciences, they'll do something different.

103 posted on 08/16/2016 6:42:12 AM PDT by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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To: Zenjitsuman

My brother in law is Mormon and I went to school with many of them. They’re off. Something not right about them.


104 posted on 08/16/2016 6:42:49 AM PDT by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Could just be a business maneuver...or not.


105 posted on 08/16/2016 6:42:55 AM PDT by jetson
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To: TangledUpInBlue
“Your own worst enemy is your own big mouth”

I haven't personally heard every utterance out of either Hillary or Trump, but without question all political candidates make gaffs. Whether or not those gaffs ever hurt you is largely determined by whether or not you have a large contingent of enemies in the media who want to destroy you. It's really that clear.

That said, if I were Trump's campaign I would release, each and every day, a list of what the left and the press said I said, and then follow that with what I actually said, and what that meant. I would make it widely available, online and everywhere, and emphasize to everyone that this is where to find the truth and reality - and that the media are welcome to try to refute that truth, but won't be able to.

I would also release an ad that goes down the list of things the press and the left said about every Republican candidate since Reagan: Reagan's unpredictable and dangerous, Bush is stupid, Bush bugged out on the National Guard, Romney is an out of touch rich guy who puts his dog on the roof of his car, Dole is a nice senile old man, etc. etc., and point out that it has been consistently the other side who have used name calling and the politics of personal destruction.

107 posted on 08/16/2016 6:44:31 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Maceman
Maybe they will follow orders.

I'm a Mormon. What orders are you talking about?
108 posted on 08/16/2016 6:45:55 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: usafa92
My brother in law is Mormon and I went to school with many of them. They’re off. Something not right about them.

Oh really?


109 posted on 08/16/2016 6:47:14 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: Zathras

Have you seen the documentaries on the people who’ve left the Church of Scientology? Similar ones will be made one day about LDS.


110 posted on 08/16/2016 6:49:44 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Oh.


111 posted on 08/16/2016 6:52:49 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Zathras

“My conservative friends in the Mormon Church are being ordered to support Hillary.
They are following orders.”

I’m surprised by this, and I’m wondering if these are just a few isolated incidents. I attend Sacrament Meeting nearly every week, and I’ve never heard anything about asking members to support Hillary Clinton (or even Donald Trump). As far back as I can remember, the leadership of the church always directs the bishop of each ward to read a letter from the pulpit during election years, to the effect that the church does not endorse any particular candidate, and that members should use their best judgment to vote for elected representatives that they believe will govern in justice and righteousness (I’m paraphrasing, because I don’t remember the exact wording). I’m in Texas, so the dynamic may be different than Utah, but I’m not at all seeing a groundswell of support for Hillary Clinton. I know this is very anecdotal, but one of the most devout Mormons I know is my own mom, and she even voted for Trump in the primary, and is angry at Romney for interfering.


112 posted on 08/16/2016 6:54:40 AM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I blame mormons.


113 posted on 08/16/2016 6:58:35 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Zathras
"My conservative friends in the Mormon Church are being ordered to support Hillary. They are following orders."

If they are following orders of a cult, they are not conservative. They are slaves.

114 posted on 08/16/2016 6:59:22 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: StormPrepper
"But voting for the lesser of two evils, is still voting for evil.

The world is fallen and you live in it. You are surrounded by evil on every side. There is no perfect choice at all. None. You are talking about some degree of evil, no matter who you vote for.

You'd be far better off making your standard to vote for the most redemptive thing.

If you can't vote for Trump, vote for Pence.

115 posted on 08/16/2016 7:03:16 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: StormPrepper

Yeah, I just heard some ‘Rat hack on Stu Varney’s show say that Hillary’s lies, criminality, and total lack of ethics don’t matter to the American people. Instead it is Donald Trump who is the devil incarnate. Varney shook his head in agreement.

What a load, you might say, of bull. As is your holier-than-thou post.

So you sit there all conflicted on your high moral perch while the global ruling class, the media, and the ‘Rat Party - all willing tools of Satan himself - ensure the election of the most corrupt and wicked candidate for President this country has ever seen.

A pox on all who refuse to support the Republican candidate.


116 posted on 08/16/2016 7:04:13 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: nclaurel
Since so many vocal nevertrump seem to be Mormon, can you tell us more about what they are told?

Why do you assume they were told anything? The Church never endorses a political candidate. Politics is never preached from the pulpit ever.

Extermination Order

All Mormons know about this. And Trump proclaiming to focus on a religion for discrimination is a slippery slope which probably raised a red flag among many Mormons.

In 1844, when Boggs signed the Extermination Order, mobs went out killing people. My wife's ancestor, great-great-great grandfather was gunned down by a mob that was lead by three protestant ministers. He was out working in his garden, because he was a Mormon.

So yea, we're a little sensitive about that subject. And why many Mormons would say "never trump", is understandable.


117 posted on 08/16/2016 7:04:49 AM PDT by StormPrepper
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To: TangledUpInBlue

This is from yahoo, so it’s propaganda.


118 posted on 08/16/2016 7:05:30 AM PDT by uncitizen (Americanism NOT Globalism! - Trump)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

First off, Yahoo takes bits and pieces to put together that Trump is admitting his campaign is in trouble. Secondly, anyone ever notice that these types of stories come out the day after Trump makes a scripted speech, you know, one that leaves little for the media to misrepresent?


119 posted on 08/16/2016 7:06:13 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: StormPrepper
Romney has no influence in Utah?

You must be kidding.

Romney and Mike Lee are trying to organize the Morman mafia in Utah to deprive Trump of any of the 4 electoral votes.

120 posted on 08/16/2016 7:07:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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