Posted on 08/13/2016 6:49:03 AM PDT by Be Careful
(See Bogus BS Sample in PDF link below) MILWAUKEE – A new Marquette Law School Poll finds Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton with support from 46 percent of Wisconsin registered voters and Republican candidate Donald Trump with support from 36 percent in a head-to-head presidential matchup.
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Ding, ding, ding!
All polls are bought and paid for RAT polls
They will give the rats the narrative that they want so they can use it in the their corrupt media coverage
Ignore this garbage poll
A new Marquette Law School Poll
What about the poll for the Engineering Dept or the Dental School...
What is the old saying, even a broken clock is right twice a day?
“Well if no polls contradict the propaganda, it will definitely work. All polls now showing Trump losing big time. Scares the crap out of me.”
So basically you are just a passive observer looking for a survey to define your mood?
And people here have the nerve to look down on leftists as pajama boys and weak snowflakes?
People are interested in winning the election, not winning a poll. Because frankly when the numbers are tied or positive in our favor, I dont see people doing much more than kicking back. But get a negative result and this site turns into 2,000 political consultants and another 2,000 people cowering in the corner, complaining about propaganda.
Are you doing anything to help counter it? I swear the GOPe puts up a bigger fight than conservatives seem to do.
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Freepers can be a pathetic lot. They will give you a thousand reasons to lose but cannot come up with a single reason how to win.
This guy has been a very good pollster in the past. But he tends to put out a shock value poll and then as the election nears, he drills down into the real numbers. He called all three of the Walker wins. So skip this one, but pay attention as the election nears.
You know piling on anyone who mentions the obvious isn’t helpful. I’m willing to bet I do more for the Trump campaign than most so stop lecturing me. I didn’t say I don’t fight back, I said it scares me and it does. When the media announces their bias, their plans to stop one candidate, and their paid polls put their candidate so far in the lead, it’s scary.
I swear, too many Freepers insulting others for no good reason, accusing me of cowering, of complaining because I said the polls scare me. Just stop.
So true. One bad manipulated poll and many so called conservatives start talking about 2020. Sorry, but if we lose this election you can forget about a “conservative” revival four years from now. Ted Cruz ain’t coming to the rescue. That ship left the harbor and ain’t coming back. It’s Trump or nothing. I don’t want to hear right now about how we need to preserve conservative principles. Who in DC has them? The country is in real peril and most conservatives will be backing Trump because right now saving the country is priority number ONE!
Among likely voters, i.e., those who say they are certain they will vote in November, Clinton is supported by 52 percent and Trump by 37 percent in the new poll, with 10 percent saying they will support neither candidate. In July, likely voters gave Clinton 45 percent support, Trump 41 percent and 14 percent said they would vote for neither.
credit to Wm. Shakespeare....much ado about nothing. we have been through this before. so, relax, sit back and enjoy the weave and parry. we fortunately have a fighter this time, and he will not lose.
In defiance, the Spanaway Washington poll, talking to my neighbors, is still undecided by two I talked to but a resounding Trump for the other. And I can do two things the poll they are listing here can’t, I can identify my polled people. So my poll is more believable.
C’mon, how far must this thing go to find a way to lie with these polls hitting the news that don’t mean squat?
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Sorry folks, this is going to get me flamed but it is what my instincts are telling me. I dismissed polls in the last election and won’t now. I have no doubt that Trump is trailing given the constant media barrage against him. I am also dead sure that whoever the candidate was going to be they would have faced the same barrage.
If Trump and his team didn’t know the MSM would do this, then they didnt deserve the nomination and certainly not to be POTUS. The only way to counter this stuff was and is through aggressive advertising. Instead, Trump has let the MSM bash him and Hillary dominate the ad time.
Congrats Mr. Trump, you are doing it your way and your way is getting you destroyed (unfairly, granted, but destroyed).
I suppose what I am saying is wake the eff up and start running adverts. Oh, and just opening campaign offices NOW in all 50 states is not good news. It’s “what the hell took you so damn long” news. Yuge rallies alone will not win this. Speaking to the already converted will not do this. You are battling “free stuff” nation and they are powerful.
Four continuously-updated or most recent nationwide polls (LAT/USC, UPI, Reuters and Raz) (the first three are internet-based, and the fourth a robo-caller poll) show the race to be relatively close. The state polls that show lop-sided leads are inconsistent with these. Big suspicion that method of polling is important. Live-caller polls differ enormously from internet-based and robo-caller polls. To illustrate, last week Opinion Savvy (robo-caller) showed the race a statistical tie in Florida, whereas the Marist College (live-caller) poll gave Clinton a 5 point lead.
BOTTOM LINE: The polls are wrong (in the sense of outside the margin of error) about half the time nowadays, and when they are, they are always biased against conservative. Here’s my rule: if the polls show us down by 6 points, the odds are fifty-fifty that the race is a toss-up. If the polls show us up, we’re up.
Well said Post 14.
Trump has already done the unthinkable this election season. And he ain’t done yet!
The whiners serve no purpose.
Wisconsin has about 6 million people.
Milwaukee 600K.
I agree on the polls being badly off in 2010 and 2014, but I’m getting concerned-—not that they show Trump losing but that he’s just not gaining any ground. I know they are weighting these in crazy ways, and I know the goal is to depress the base. These are also designed to drive a wedge between the “I guess I’ll vote for Trump” people and those who would just stay home.
LET ME BEGIN BY STATING A PROPOSITION: FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NOT WON A DECISIVE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION SINCE 1988, and then only because of Reagan’s coattails and Lee (Donald Trump Jr.) Atwater.
I THINK Trump knows the media and polls would be against him. He has stopped talking entirely about polls, contrary to what he did in the primaries, even good ones. I think he planned for this eventuality. So-—just me, no info from the Trump “insiders”-—I’m just guessing this has been the strategy all along:
1) Expect to get slaughtered in the media, but at least use the media to stay in the public eye (good or bad) and keep name recognition through the dog days of summer.
2) Begin the “traditional” campaign effort in early August. As you see, Trump “only” now is rolling out his state campaign apparatus. Traditionally this is a big mistake. The “pros” will tell us that you needed these people there since February. Maybe. Didn’t do McLame or Minion much good, did it? In fact, the more I looked at this, we really haven’t won a decisive election since 1988. Bush won two squeakers, one by 237 votes, one by 114,000 votes. In the second case, he won only because he got the benefit of being at war and people wanted to give him a chance to win it. So in essence, the GOP “pros” have to go back to G. H. W. Bush to actually have anything to brag about.
3) I think Trump’s unconventional campaign of not spending money yet involves a massive, massive blitz beginning early October. I think he is counting on a new campaign approach that doesn’t see much firming up before then.
4) I still haven’t really perceived what he sees as the value of the mass rallies. He has to know that in terms of total voter turnout, they are a drop in the bucket. But they do get supporters energized. They do keep him in REGIONAL news without the filters. (Again, based on polls, is this working? We don’t have proof). He has to know that Cankles’ people-—energized or not, will trudge to the polls to vote in Nov. out of fear of losing their free stuff.
SO THAT SAID, I think Trump does have a plan. I don’t know what it is, but it’s clearly not that of the previous (in essence) six losing strategies. It involves these rallies, his use of social media, the high turnout of the previously disengaged voter. That is quite doable, but very risky because after all, these people are, well, “disengaged.” That’s why I think he doesn’t really care all that much about the help of the GOP establishment and organization, because they wouldn’t reach these people anyway.
I DO have a single statement that I think Trump could use sometime in early Sept. (but not too early, lest the power wear off) that would win a number of “concerned” voters who might be inclined to support him . . . but I’m saving that one.
In 2014 Walker won by 5.7 points (52.3 to 46.8)
Marquette Poll:
10/26 Walker +7
10/12 tie
9/14 Walker +3
8/24 Democrat +2
7/20 Democrat +1
The only other pollster that was in the ballpark in Wisconsin in 2014 relative to the final outcome was Gravis.
BOTTOM LINE #1: the poll numbers can move around a lot; especially this year with the Libertarian currently drawing a big number.
BOTTOM LINE #2: Wisconsin isn’t looking good right now. Our side needs to get into gear.
Thanks for the input. There is no doubt here that DJT is nothing if not prepared for this fight. Trust him to know what is going on before anyone realizes just how smart he is in learning how to play the politics game. Just do not see him doing anything BUT win no matter how hard he must work to achieve his goal. He plays by his rules and all we need do is have faith he knows what he is doing and the ability to do it. And work like crazy in order to help him in anyway possible. And pray, a lot of prayers.
It isn’t even Labor Day yet. School hasn’t started back in session. Families are cramming one last vacation in before it does start. Because he has limited funds, Trump is no doubt conserving fire power until the last 60 days. The early deciders have their minds made up. The late deciders wait until the 7-10 days to make up their minds. The really gritty ads need to be uncorked in the last 21 days.
However, the media’s biased polls, showing Hillary far ahead, can provide cover for the massive voter fraud the DNC is no doubt planning. They will hand in phony voter registrations by the thousands, and then the election numbers won’t look so out of line. They don’t want a repeat of Phily precincts in the last two elections that voted 110% for Obama.That does look bad…but the Republicans don’t mind because they never challenge those bogus results.
Dude, the Green Bay Packers are owned by a very diverse group of shareholders (n=360,584 in 2014), none of whom is allowed to hold more than 4% of the shares. Most shareholders own one share and frame it to hang on the wall. This community ownership is unique in the NFL, and explains why they are not going anywhere, any time. No one will ever develop a team in a market that small, or even a market 15x Green Bay’s present size. It is an anomaly, but one that will persist, right where it is.
Unless we get off our butts and get the real news/facts out on the street and confront this media where it lives, Trump loses.
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