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If Trump Loses, Who Will Deserve The Blame?
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2016 | Mark Davis

Posted on 08/12/2016 4:38:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

August has not been a good month for those of us who are actually interested in preventing a Hillary Clinton presidency.

The left was always expected to be an obstacle, aided by willing handmaidens in the dominant media culture. But we have been additionally thwarted by Republicans unable to achieve clarity on the necessity of this mission. Throw in our candidate’s self-inflicted wounds, and moods have darkened.

Not mine.

This is a thoroughly winnable election, still more than twelve weeks away. We have a candidate who is far superior to Hillary Clinton on national security, taxes, job creation, gun rights, health care, rebuilding the military and the vital issue of Supreme Court choices. If we can spend more time celebrating his skillful deployment of those comparisons and less time cleaning up his messes, we will win.

That is a sizable if, but I plan to spend every day until the election doing things that bring about the defeat of Hillary Clinton, while pointing out the hazards of failing to do so.

However, the air hangs thick with residual NeverTrumper discontent. This has sparked discussion over whether foot-dragging Republicans will actually be to blame if he loses. If we shuffle off to nightmare-filled sleep November 8 after a Hillary Clinton win, will we have contrarian politicians and pundits to blame?

The answer is: it depends.

Any allegiance to conservatism requires fending off the disaster of her presidency. The only sensible choice is for the malcontents to get with the program, unify and help return this woman and her husband to private life permanently.

But if they do not, and Trump loses, is it their fault?

It will be if he brings us sufficient focus and discipline to deserve victory. If we blaze a trail to November 8 spending relatively few days explaining what he meant in his latest shoot-from-the-hip brushfire because he has done a laudable job of showing America why he is an infinitely better choice, then yes, it will be time to inform the NeverTrumpers that they own every stinking day of the ruinous presidency that will then unfold.

If Trump does pleasantly surprise us with a home stretch short on crises, maybe some of the recalcitrant know-it-alls will shrug and get on board. But many will not. They have made clear that they are fine with a status-quo establishment dichotomy, even if it features a presidency we have spent a generation dreading, and the country be damned.

Those die-hards are unmoved by the logic that they will have enabled a Hillary presidency, because they simply do not care. They have proven it.

But I believe there are many Trump skeptics who will thaw as November 8 draws nearer. They will see that a corrupt President who has alternately sacrificed and monetized our national security is a far worse prospect than any vagaries the Trump years may bring.

If they do not, then yes, we should long remember their betrayal as we endure Obama’s third term.

Unless…

What if Trump is just getting warmed up in the unforced errors department? What if September and October are a wheels-off catastrophe dispiriting to even enthusiastic supporters? This, by the way, is the firm prediction from the camp of his haters.

If they are right, he will lose, and it will not have been because of Susan Collins, Ben Sasse and Bill Kristol. It will have been because he screwed it up.

But here in mid-August, there is no way to know which Trump we are going to get. As such, it is the duty of every conservative to join the fight to at least give America a shot at a rescue from a continuation of the worst policies of our lifetime.

If our candidate does not sufficiently cooperate, at least we will have done our part. The Hillary presidency will not unfold because we lost focus. There will be at least some shred of peace from that as our liberties blink out in the coming years.

As someone passionately fighting for a Trump win, why am I spending time musing over the scapegoating landscape in the event of a Trump loss? I offer it as motivation, an appeal to any shred of objectivity that may be reachable in the minds and hearts of the Trump-haters.

If he runs a terrible campaign, they can say their initial predictions were correct. Good for them, we will award brownie points as we await the collapse of the economy and the Constitution.

But if he runs a good campaign, winning over enough votes to forestall a national calamity, what a tragedy if he loses one necessary state by a slim margin because NeverTrumpers denied America the life preserver of their cooperation.


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: bushvsamerica; cruzvsamerica; romneyvsamerica; ryanvsamerica; zot
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

My thoughts exactly! Add that there is a secret DEM percentage who are part of the silent majority coming over. They despise Hillary!


21 posted on 08/12/2016 5:05:55 AM PDT by GizzyGirl
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To: Kaslin

Let’s see. who would we blame. Let’s start with Ted Cruz, Glen Beck, John Kasich, Jeb Bush. And we add the Career RINO Politicians and the #Never Trumper’s. Plus the MSM and Leftist/Liberal/Socialists.


22 posted on 08/12/2016 5:06:20 AM PDT by RollingThunder
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To: bfh333

22 posts so far and yours is the only correct one. Prepare for incoming.


23 posted on 08/12/2016 5:16:08 AM PDT by Hiro Protaginast
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To: Kaslin

“Self-inflicted wounds”

This is the meme of the MSM, the GOPe and its own enablers - those calling themselves conservative from the media. That assertion I quoted is wholly a fiction created by media propaganda. If people do not have the intestinal fortitude to utterly reject these fictions but entertain their validity then that is a serious problem


24 posted on 08/12/2016 5:17:41 AM PDT by Lent
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To: bfh333

The “truth” is that if Trump hadn’t entered the race, Jeb would have been the candidate.


25 posted on 08/12/2016 5:19:49 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: bfh333

Yeah, because a lying POS globalist sellout like Ted Lying Cruz would be doing so much better.
After Trump wins all of you Hillary enablers can tell us just how that shoe leather tastes.


26 posted on 08/12/2016 5:19:52 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverHillary)
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To: LostPassword
Many in the GOPe will try to take CREDIT

What's a GOPe. If Trump is not elected, they are done. We may have a one party dictatorship, but at least we will know who the enemy is, but GOPe is and will be done.

27 posted on 08/12/2016 5:20:22 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: bfh333

It WILL be because of people just like you if Trump loses, I am sure you voted for Romney with NO PROBLEM !!!!


28 posted on 08/12/2016 5:20:26 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: GizzyGirl

“It’s an unreasonable question. Trump will win!”
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I’m with you. This thread is pointless.

Countless millions of people are keeping their presidential preference to themselves this election cycle, and their preference is Donald J. Trump.

The blue collar guys and gals love Trump, and they are going to jump ship from that Titanic known as Hitlery Rotten Criminal and the democrat party in droves.


29 posted on 08/12/2016 5:23:47 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Hell No, DNC, We Won't Vote For Hillary!)
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To: Kaslin

The Anti-Trump movement is sort of like one of those insane ex’s “If I can’t have the party, NO-ONE can!”

They’ve once again sabotaged anyone who doesn’t drink their brand of Kool-Aid.

Trump has been spewing, and a fair amount probably has to do with both sides of the aisle trying to destroy him. Nonetheless, even in his spewing there are some good points to be made. One is certainly to compare the ISIS comment to Clinton claiming that Republicans are racist, especially given the appalling findings by the DOJ about one particular democratic stronghold recently.

We could be using things like this to help national dialog begin to be less divisive and full of B.S., but noooooo!!!


30 posted on 08/12/2016 5:24:29 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Proverbs 17:22 A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.)
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To: Kaslin

The Anti-Trump movement is sort of like one of those insane ex’s “If I can’t have the party, NO-ONE can!”

They’ve once again sabotaged anyone who doesn’t drink their brand of Kool-Aid.

Trump has been spewing, and a fair amount probably has to do with both sides of the aisle trying to destroy him. Nonetheless, even in his spewing there are some good points to be made. One is certainly to compare the ISIS comment to Clinton claiming that Republicans are racist, especially given the appalling findings by the DOJ about one particular democratic stronghold recently.

We could be using things like this to help national dialog begin to be less divisive and full of B.S., but noooooo!!!


31 posted on 08/12/2016 5:24:30 AM PDT by BlackAdderess (Proverbs 17:22 A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones.)
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To: Kaslin

Who deserves the blame?.....

1st.) Conservatives who were stupid enough to nominate an untested, unprincipled, lifelong Democrat to represent the Republican party in the most important election in the history of the nation.

2nd.) Republicans who wouldn’t get on board once Trump became the only thing standing between Hillary and the White House.


32 posted on 08/12/2016 5:25:21 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: Kaslin

Indirectly, barring fraud, it will be low-info voters.

Having said that, those same low-info voters have been marched to their decision by the corrupt media.

Imagine, for a moment, if the media was actually reporting the truth. Then imagine (this will take some effort) if the media slanted conservative rather than liberal. Those same voters would be going Trump.


33 posted on 08/12/2016 5:25:57 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: rbg81
He should have realized the MSM and RHINOs would be against him to the bitter end. He is also too easily bated, IMHO.

If he is doing this on purpose, I believe that it is to prevent piling on. If he doesn't respond to anybody whose son died overseas in the armed forces, the Dems and the Bill Crystals will come up with pickup trucks full of Sheehans and Khans and deploy them.

I may be wrong, but I see that as fitting in with Trump's M.O. I KNOW that some of his off-handed asides are not really off-handed.
34 posted on 08/12/2016 5:28:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: Kaslin

JEB and the gaggle of Bush hangers-on who gave $150 million to his awful campaign. They are seeking revenge for their disastrously bad investment and want conservative Republicans to be beaten and humiliated for opposing them and their chosen one, JEB! They don’t believe that this would mean the end of the Republican Party, but it will be.


35 posted on 08/12/2016 5:35:55 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Here come the NeverTrumpers wearing with their Cruz/Jeb butt-hurt shirts pulled up over their heads.

I’m going to do everything I can to kill what’s left of the GOP if Trump loses. Despicable hypocrites all.


36 posted on 08/12/2016 5:38:42 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: rbg81
True, but Trump deserves the blame too. He should have realized the MSM and RHINOs would be against him to the bitter end. He is also too easily bated, IMHO .

Agree. It's like there's a huge target painted on the side of a big ugly old barn but he runs around it shooting off like Yosemite Sam. Whether or not he manages to hit the barn to any great degree remains to be seen.

37 posted on 08/12/2016 5:43:27 AM PDT by pt17
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To: Kaslin

There is only one man who can keep Trump from being elected:

Donald Trump


38 posted on 08/12/2016 5:47:32 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

That is true


39 posted on 08/12/2016 5:51:18 AM PDT by Kaslin (He neededAwesomeOf the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Agreed, if he loses it will be his own damn fault. The press is a close second though.


40 posted on 08/12/2016 5:51:54 AM PDT by refermech
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