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If Trump Loses, Who Will Deserve The Blame?
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2016 | Mark Davis

Posted on 08/12/2016 4:38:54 AM PDT by Kaslin

August has not been a good month for those of us who are actually interested in preventing a Hillary Clinton presidency.

The left was always expected to be an obstacle, aided by willing handmaidens in the dominant media culture. But we have been additionally thwarted by Republicans unable to achieve clarity on the necessity of this mission. Throw in our candidate’s self-inflicted wounds, and moods have darkened.

Not mine.

This is a thoroughly winnable election, still more than twelve weeks away. We have a candidate who is far superior to Hillary Clinton on national security, taxes, job creation, gun rights, health care, rebuilding the military and the vital issue of Supreme Court choices. If we can spend more time celebrating his skillful deployment of those comparisons and less time cleaning up his messes, we will win.

That is a sizable if, but I plan to spend every day until the election doing things that bring about the defeat of Hillary Clinton, while pointing out the hazards of failing to do so.

However, the air hangs thick with residual NeverTrumper discontent. This has sparked discussion over whether foot-dragging Republicans will actually be to blame if he loses. If we shuffle off to nightmare-filled sleep November 8 after a Hillary Clinton win, will we have contrarian politicians and pundits to blame?

The answer is: it depends.

Any allegiance to conservatism requires fending off the disaster of her presidency. The only sensible choice is for the malcontents to get with the program, unify and help return this woman and her husband to private life permanently.

But if they do not, and Trump loses, is it their fault?

It will be if he brings us sufficient focus and discipline to deserve victory. If we blaze a trail to November 8 spending relatively few days explaining what he meant in his latest shoot-from-the-hip brushfire because he has done a laudable job of showing America why he is an infinitely better choice, then yes, it will be time to inform the NeverTrumpers that they own every stinking day of the ruinous presidency that will then unfold.

If Trump does pleasantly surprise us with a home stretch short on crises, maybe some of the recalcitrant know-it-alls will shrug and get on board. But many will not. They have made clear that they are fine with a status-quo establishment dichotomy, even if it features a presidency we have spent a generation dreading, and the country be damned.

Those die-hards are unmoved by the logic that they will have enabled a Hillary presidency, because they simply do not care. They have proven it.

But I believe there are many Trump skeptics who will thaw as November 8 draws nearer. They will see that a corrupt President who has alternately sacrificed and monetized our national security is a far worse prospect than any vagaries the Trump years may bring.

If they do not, then yes, we should long remember their betrayal as we endure Obama’s third term.

Unless…

What if Trump is just getting warmed up in the unforced errors department? What if September and October are a wheels-off catastrophe dispiriting to even enthusiastic supporters? This, by the way, is the firm prediction from the camp of his haters.

If they are right, he will lose, and it will not have been because of Susan Collins, Ben Sasse and Bill Kristol. It will have been because he screwed it up.

But here in mid-August, there is no way to know which Trump we are going to get. As such, it is the duty of every conservative to join the fight to at least give America a shot at a rescue from a continuation of the worst policies of our lifetime.

If our candidate does not sufficiently cooperate, at least we will have done our part. The Hillary presidency will not unfold because we lost focus. There will be at least some shred of peace from that as our liberties blink out in the coming years.

As someone passionately fighting for a Trump win, why am I spending time musing over the scapegoating landscape in the event of a Trump loss? I offer it as motivation, an appeal to any shred of objectivity that may be reachable in the minds and hearts of the Trump-haters.

If he runs a terrible campaign, they can say their initial predictions were correct. Good for them, we will award brownie points as we await the collapse of the economy and the Constitution.

But if he runs a good campaign, winning over enough votes to forestall a national calamity, what a tragedy if he loses one necessary state by a slim margin because NeverTrumpers denied America the life preserver of their cooperation.


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: bushvsamerica; cruzvsamerica; romneyvsamerica; ryanvsamerica; zot
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To: Kaslin

We have never had such a candidate more in tune with the issues, more clear about a response to the issues and detailed on how to improve the economy and jobs, secure our national safety and our borders, speaks to these issues and respond to these issues in detail and for hours each day extensively in the public venue, yet the anti-Trump agenda simply refuses to cover what he actually says and instead uses selective outtakes to spin an agenda of character defamation and the lie that he doesn’t address the specifics when he is actually unprecedented in such clarity and response and detail.

The Never Trump agenda is really and exclusively about the amnesty, open borders and cheap labor for their benefactors and nothing else. It does not matter if Hillary will dramatically increase taxes and regulation, increase the national debt, destroy the middle class and jobs, attack the police and federalize the police on false naratives of racism, divide the country by race, nothing matters to the actual agenda of the anti-Trump aganda but amnesty, open borders and cheap labor that displaces Americans and jobs with foreigners, they do not even care about capitalism or democracy, they only care about cheap labor for their Chamber of Commerce crowd benefactors and nothing else, and because Hillary will bring in more cheap labor, more amnesty, more open borders, they now support Hillary and have attacked Trump from day one when Trump when he said he would build a wall.

Period. That is what is going on here. There will be no 2020 if Hillary wins. The true 1 percenters of Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, et all in IT will displace every American from an IT job with cheap foreign labor, other 1 percenters for Hillary will get their cheap labor, flood Texas with hordes of illegal criminal and illiterates who will vote Democrat and turn Texas from Red to Blue and there will not be another Republican President again for 100 years.

2016. This is it. No 2020. The anti-Trump will not say why they hate Trump. They will say it is about “character”. Really? Hillary’s character that is the solution? It has nothing to do with character. That is the spin and lie.

It is all about cheap labor.

The blame is them and their selfish motives. They want, and are succeeding, in controlling the narative before a huge audience of low information voters.


121 posted on 08/12/2016 10:08:56 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: mkjessup; bfh333; WildHighlander57; Conservative Gato; Psalm 144; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; ...

FYI....biffhh333 has attracted the ZIPPITY ZOT!!


122 posted on 08/12/2016 10:10:30 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: wardaddy; Kaslin; Ohioan; Travis McGee

Well said. Very well said.


123 posted on 08/12/2016 10:58:16 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: bfh333; WildHighlander57; Conservative Gato; Psalm 144; onyx; Jane Long; PA Engineer; ...

Good riddance you foul ‘RAT POS.


124 posted on 08/12/2016 11:15:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (Mop Up *ZOT* operations are still underway. See a subversive anti-Trump troll? Notify the mods!)
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To: Scythian_Reborn

“Hell, Hannity is backing “Lil’ Marco” down in Florida already, says he believes him on immigration now, LOL, fool me once, what a dufus”

Yeah, Sean’s man-crush on La Raza Marco never ends. It’s just Hannity returning to the weak position he’s always had regarding immigration. It’s not an issue he is really concerned about and his default position is close to Rubio’s.


125 posted on 08/12/2016 11:20:26 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: Kaslin

The republican party and their stooges in radio and tv who undermined the candidate in favor of a very corrupt person known to be a traitor.


126 posted on 08/12/2016 11:21:47 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: All

The radicals of the 60s and anyone who fought McCarthy in the 50s. They paved the way for communist run re-education camps called Universities which spawned pro socialism/communism and trickled down to public schools therefor creating low info voters.


127 posted on 08/12/2016 11:37:07 AM PDT by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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To: wardaddy

“That is bullshit Captain

Nobody has ever run against an array like this

Not that I’ve ever seen”

And, what, you didn’t see that coming?

Fool!


128 posted on 08/13/2016 7:57:25 PM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Grampa Dave

caveatemptor and davew are still with us, FYI...


129 posted on 08/13/2016 8:09:09 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Grampa Dave
carjic, monitor, Angels27, caww, 429cj. theophilus, txradioguy, tacticalogic, richardtavor, profoundman, rhema, fatheroffive are also all reinstated... see, the list isn't even as long as some claim.

Please do a quick audit and remove the resurrected...

Vote Trump!

130 posted on 08/13/2016 8:13:12 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Grampa Dave

jerseyrepub, rightlady...


131 posted on 08/13/2016 8:14:35 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Grampa Dave

WilliamIII, unlearner, agamemnon, texascajun...


132 posted on 08/13/2016 8:16:21 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Grampa Dave

yosemitest, subterfuge, isrealbeach, calpublican, porterknorr, unchained, smith288 (although he declares himself #NeverTrump on his profile page) all reinstated


133 posted on 08/13/2016 8:19:26 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Grampa Dave
texasgunlover, livius, abovemypaygrade, robbyS, 11th commandment, bcrago66, lowoil, llmc1 all reinstated, and I think that's about it. Your list just got a lot shorter.

See how forgiving Jim Robinson is?

Vote Trump!

134 posted on 08/13/2016 8:23:15 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: Kaslin

Women and minorities.


135 posted on 08/13/2016 8:32:46 PM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: Kaslin

Women and minorities.


136 posted on 08/13/2016 8:32:47 PM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: sargon

Thanks for the feedback and welcome back to your list.

Jim is forgiving.

Go Trump, send Clinton to Cuba!


137 posted on 08/13/2016 8:36:46 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion for freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: Grampa Dave

You can add “yetidog” to the ZOT list, and deservedly so...


138 posted on 08/13/2016 9:34:46 PM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: sargon

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139 posted on 08/13/2016 9:40:56 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion for freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Doesn’t matter whether you or I saw it coming.


140 posted on 08/13/2016 11:50:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (black lives kill....and kill....and kill.....like no other race today senselessly)
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