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Why Do People Say Muslim Now Instead of Moslem?
http://historynewsnetwork.org/ ^ | 7-8-02 | Yii-Ann Christine Chen

Posted on 08/05/2016 8:05:39 PM PDT by disndat

Is it Muslim or Moslem?

When Baby Boomers were children it was Moslem. The American Heritage Dictionary (1992) noted,"Moslem is the form predominantly preferred in journalism and popular usage. Muslim is preferred by scholars and by English-speaking adherents of Islam." No more. Now, almost everybody uses Muslim.

According to the Center for Nonproliferation Studies,"Moslem and Muslim are basically two different spellings for the same word." But the seemingly arbitrary choice of spellings is a sensitive subject for many followers of Islam. Whereas for most English speakers, the two words are synonymous in meaning, the Arabic roots of the two words are very different. A Muslim in Arabic means"one who gives himself to God," and is by definition, someone who adheres to Islam. By contrast, a Moslem in Arabic means"one who is evil and unjust" when the word is pronounced, as it is in English, Mozlem with a z.

For others, this spelling differentiation is merely a linguistic matter, with the two spellings a result of variation in transliteration methods. Both Moslem and Muslim are used as nouns. But some writers use Moslem when the word is employed as an adjective.

Journalists switched to Muslim from Moslem in recent years under pressure from Islamic groups. But the use of the word Moslem has not entirely ceased. Established institutions which used the older form of the name have been reluctant to change. The American Moslem Foundation is still the American Moslem Foundation (much as the NAACP is still the NAACP--the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People). The journal The Moslem World--published by the Hartford Seminary in Connecticut--is still The Moslem World.

Sources

Center for Nonproliferation Studies Religious Studies Program, University of Wyoming - See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/524#sthash.BFbbwDCa.dpuf


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: asshat; flashback; moochelle; moslem; muslim
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To: disndat

They have always been Moslims to me. As a matter of fact my spell-checker agrees.


101 posted on 08/06/2016 3:11:06 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: katana

In the US we bend over backwards to change our pronunciation and spelling of Proper Names of places and persons.

Peking to Beijing

Etc

In other countries they use their own pronunciations of the words United States.

Estates Unite

Etc.

It is always going to be Peking

We are allowed to have our own pronunciations too.


102 posted on 08/06/2016 3:14:47 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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To: disndat

This reminds me, why don’t we hear “mullato” any more?


103 posted on 08/06/2016 3:15:57 AM PDT by boknows
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To: stylin19a

koranimals


104 posted on 08/06/2016 3:37:14 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal is just another word for poltroon.)
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To: disndat

Neither. Muslim is an Arabic word. The correct term for followers of the camel humping pedophile is Mohammedans.

Just as followers of Christ are called Christians and followers of Buddha are called Buddhists, so too followers of the camel humping pedophile should be called Mohammedans.

If they don’t like it, tough sh!t.


105 posted on 08/06/2016 3:56:37 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: disndat

I use the term i learned in Junior High School, mohammedan, small ‘m’.

Or, i will use the other term, saracen.


106 posted on 08/06/2016 4:02:57 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: disndat

It is neither Muslim nor Moslem. It is Mohammadman.


107 posted on 08/06/2016 4:17:57 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (We need the Second Amendment now more than ever.)
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To: disndat

I always thought “moslem” was the noun and “muslim” was the adjective. Now I know that “raghead” or “mudslime” is the proper term.


108 posted on 08/06/2016 4:40:04 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Arthur McGowan

I say destitute in the manner of never having Christ in his life.


109 posted on 08/06/2016 5:27:15 AM PDT by disndat
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To: disndat
I usually use "muzzie" - no caps just like when I spell out "allah"

Never have anything good to say when using those words so who cares how others spell/pronounce it?

110 posted on 08/06/2016 5:28:29 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: disndat

You can put lipstick on a muslim but it’s still a pig.


111 posted on 08/06/2016 5:39:46 AM PDT by NY Cajun (I contributed to her pink slip this morning.)
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To: boknows
This reminds me, why don’t we hear “mullato” any more?

Halle Berry and the Resurgence of the Tragic Mulatto

Race is not an individual choice; it’s a social choice.

112 posted on 08/06/2016 5:50:39 AM PDT by disndat
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To: disndat

“Snackbars”


113 posted on 08/06/2016 5:52:40 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: disndat
The pronunciation within the Moslem world varies with accent. Vowels are mutable and Maslama is the same word as Muslim in a different regional accent or even a different language. The language is mostly Arabic but there is a large Urdu population and other languages withing the Moslem cocoon. It is further complicated in the Arabic transliteration by the fact that few sounds in Arabic actually match sounds in European and other languages so no transliteration is "correct."
For the name we usually see spelled as Mohammed, Mahomet and Mehmet, and Mahmoud and Mahamdi are also correct. In Arabic the name is spelled (in Arabic letters, though) MHMD. The number and the sound of the vowels changes with the dialect.
114 posted on 08/06/2016 5:56:06 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: disndat

The only Arabic vowels are “a” “i” and “u”


115 posted on 08/06/2016 6:07:20 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: NY Cajun

Right. My experience with moslems started in the early 80s. I have stated on here “All I need to know about khizr khan I learned in 9/11” but I learned it much earlier. I wanted people to know they are being sold a pile of crap. I am tired of hearing all this PC jargon and being forced to accept it. “Thank you sir. May I have another?” (Animal House) No. Not now. Not ever.


116 posted on 08/06/2016 6:21:20 AM PDT by disndat
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To: Nacho Bidnith

I’ll try to remember that.


117 posted on 08/06/2016 6:22:17 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel; NTHockey; Terry L Smith
It is Mohammadman

This term I like. Worship a man. (Piss be upon him).

I read somewhere that madmo came up with his "religion" only to stop the internecine conflicts in the arab world and his true intent was to reestablish a better connection to their very ancient occult worship of Saturn. The worship of the black cube of Saturn. Found throughout the world. I find it interesting. The mohammadans circling the black cube (kaaba) like they are the rings of Saturn. Idolators.

118 posted on 08/06/2016 7:12:11 AM PDT by disndat
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To: Terry L Smith
mohammedan, small ‘m’.

Proper nouns are capitalized. It has nothing to do with respect. It is how English, our great language, is written.

119 posted on 08/06/2016 7:15:17 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: trebb
I usually use "muzzie" - no caps just like when I spell out "allah"

Proper nouns are capitalized. It has nothing to do with respect. It is how English, our great language, is written.

120 posted on 08/06/2016 7:16:06 AM PDT by Drew68
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