Vanity - what do we hope the GOP leadership will learn from a 2016 Election Autopsy - Vanity

Free Republic ^ | 7-31-2016 | Pollster1

[Pollster1]

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/politics/republican-national-committees-growth-and-opportunity-project-report/380/

(The "Autopsy" from the 2012 election, which led to the universal embrace of Amnesty by most GOP candidates other than Trump in 2016 - and was the reason establishment candidates were so resoundingly rejected by mainstream conservatives).

I don't do many vanities (one in a decade, having posted under a different name previously), but this seems like a good question. It's not too early to ask, since we'll be distracted once the November results are in. Today is when we have the best view of how the establishment sees the beating they took in the primaries.

What will the party leadership learn from this election if Trump wins (it could happen with the massive support that we all know is coming)? Loses (it could happen with the massive vote fraud that we all know is coming)?

What would conservatives like for them to learn from this election?

If Trump loses, I assume the establishment will decide that immigration is an immediate threat to their place at the public trough, particularly with the party leaders who have faced serious primary challenges or those who took their leadership positions after they were voted out. I expect their response to be forcing Amnesty through as soon as Hillary's wide load hits that seat in the Oval Office. They will try to clear Amnesty, Obamacare, and gun restrictions from the political debate by passing new, harmful laws acceptable to Hillary on all three issues early enough that they can dismiss those issues as "old news" when they face the voters again.

If Trump wins, I assume their response will be almost the same, except positive. They will try to clear Amnesty, Obamacare, and gun restrictions from the political debate by passing new, positive laws acceptable to Trump on all three issues early enough that they can dismiss those issues as "old news" when they face the liberal commentators again. They'll modernize legal immigration to make it work, as Trump enforces existing laws. They'll repeal most of Obamacare (thank God!), and they'll repeal some stupid gun laws - not that they care but to make us happier.

[going hot]

Thoughts?

That a candidate needs to speak from the heart, says what they are thinking, and what they would like to do, and let the voters decide if that is what they, the voters, want, instead of placating and posing in order to fool voters into supporting the candidate..

Also, the fact that the overwhelming majority of this country is pro America, and does want to make America strong, great, and prosperous, and sees who the enemy is...the lying media, the entire lib left leaders and enablers.

That mush mouth dweebs make poor candidates for the right, and rather than attempting to sway a few libs, it is better to tap into the 100,000,000 people who sit out elections because both candidates suck, and show them via honesty, integrity, and hard work that in fact you, (the candidate) is worthy of their vote.

[Pollster1]

a candidate needs to speak from the heart, says what they are thinking . . . mush mouth dweebs make poor candidates for the right, and rather than attempting to sway a few libs, it is better to tap into the 100,000,000 people who sit out elections because both candidates suck, and show them via honesty, integrity, and hard work that in fact you, (the candidate) is worthy of their vote.

Probably the best, most positive response I've seen. In the event that America survives this election, I hope that is what the establishment wing of the GOP will take away from the election.

[Dilbert San Diego]

I would like that too.

While we have had two major political parties for most of our history, the two major parties have not always been today’s Democrat and Republican parties.

I think it might be beneficial, to see today’s Republican party fizzle out, to be replaced by a new second political party, a new party devoted to conservative values and principles.

Remember in the early 1850s, the Whig party dissolved and faded away, to be replaced by the Republican party as the new second political party in this country. Why couldn’t the same thing happen again??

[LS]

I think it can, and should. The American Party.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

The GOP leadership is politically retarded. If they had the ability to learn, they would have after being clobbered in 2006. But no, they keep electing RINO speakers and appeasing the Democrats wherever possible.

They are retarded. They are incapable of learning anything beyond how to solicit money and power. They have no clue how to govern.

[Robert357]

That the public will not vote for “non-inspirational leaders” but “good get along” moderates like John McCain, Gerald Ford, Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, Tom Dewey, Wendell Willkie, Alf Landon.

The people want someone they like, they think is a winner, and above all someone who will go to battle to achieve their vision that the voters want implemented.

[Rockingham]

Elite GOP support for amnesty is driven by large donations from commercial and agricultural interests dependent on a ready supply of cheap immigrant labor. For the most part, arguments based on compassion and good policy are beside the point. Money interests want amnesty and the push for it will not easily be abandoned no matter how little political sense it makes for the GOP.