Deserves got nothin' to do with it.
Posted on 07/30/2016 10:27:39 PM PDT by Enchante
The confrontation between O'Neal and the officers happened about 7:30 p.m. Thursday after officers tried to stop O'Neal as he drove a Jaguar that had reportedly been stolen in Bolingbrook. As O'Neal drove north in the 7400 block of South Merrill Avenue, he struck a responding police SUV and a parked car, police sources told the Tribune. Two officers opened fire as O'Neal continued into the 7300 block of Merrill. O'Neal then collided with another police SUV, causing significant damage, and fled from the car. A third officer chased him and shot him behind a nearby residence, the sources said.
O'Neal, of the 1700 block of East 70th Street, was taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital, where he died shortly after 9 p.m.
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While I can't speak the nuances of the situation or the dept's exact policies on deadly force, the fact that the guy rammed 2 police cars and was endangering lives certainly should suggest it is the officers who deserve the benefit of any doubt. But nowadays the vile BLM activists are succeeding in changing the landscape, so that it is always the police who are at fault.
ofc we are told he was a “good kid”
every dangerous thug is a “good kid” doncha know....
BLM/Obama/Rahm/Hillary/Holder/Lynch will rue the day they started this. Whites will move out of Chicago and other Democrat cities and that will be that.
“He didn’t deserve to die.”
The facts say otherwise. Let’s not second guess Paul’s decision to put his life on the line.
They will regret it sooner than that. *Cops* will move out of Chicago.
Then why second guess police Superintendent Eddie Johnson, and his 30 years of experience as a cop? He says you're wrong about the facts. Biased much?
Isn’t it SOP to put an officer on desk duty without badge or service weapon while an investigation is underway?
Otoh, he might not have been ramming cars had he not been chased.
How about we make cops lives easier? If a car’s stolen, how about issuing a report number and let the owner call the insurance company. PD turns it over to the tow companies, who can repo it in about 4 seconds flat. Low key. Easy Peasy. (Insurance companies do this anyway so jump-start the process) An 18yo isn’t going to be able to hide a Jag; he’d have probably dumped it before the night was up.
There wasn't any nuance or doubt - the unarmed perp was shot in the back and killed. The police superintendent, with 30 years experience, said there appeared to be a violation of police procedure and pulled the involved officers from duty. End of subject. Your bias is noted.
Another Stripping
No, not the cheating lieutenants:
A third Chicago police officer has been relieved of police powers after department brass made the preliminary determination that officer and two others violated policy when they fired their weapons in an incident that killed an 18-year-old man, a police spokesman said Saturday.
Three officers fired their weapons in the incident that left [a gang banging car thief], 18, dead after police say he sideswiped a squad car and hit a parked car while driving a stolen Jaguar, injuring some officers about 7:30 p.m. Thursday in the 7400 block of South Merrill Avenue. Police officials announced Friday that two of the officers were relieved of their police powers, and the third was relieved of police powers on Saturday, police spokesman [...] said. See that phrase, "injuring some officers"? That's Aggravated Battery with a weapon weighing a ton-and-a-half. Seems kind of deadly to us. And the total disregard for uniformed officers traveling in marked cars? What's to stop him from disregarding a little old lady crossing the street? State law and General Order seem to conflict with the prevailing "community" feelings, and everyone knows "feelings" are the new currency of the realm.
Funny how the Department brass are demanding ISR's, for which we need Reasonable Articulable Suspicion checked by a sergeant, reviewed by downtown and audited by the ACLU. And if we happen to actually arrest someone, we need Probable Cause, sworn under oath, checked by a sergeant, and reviewed by a Detective, a Assistant State's Attorney and ruled on by a judge. But Special Ed can make a determination on three officers' livelihoods in under 48 hours just using the power of his massive brain. Labels: shooting
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Only one of the three officers was reported involved in the fatal shooting behind a building, and you don’t know what happened there. Your ignorance, bias, and hostility toward the police is duly noted.
No, you keep your badge and gun (not the one you fired). Administrative leave is time off before all the interviews start happening.
Don’t know about pulling a cop’s badge during a shooting investigation, but I do know that is routine to take them off patrol and assign them desk duty and pull their service weapon after they are involved in a shooting until the investigation has concluded.
This guy rams into two occupied police vehicles and this is a bad shoot?
Ok, you can have a policy that says don’t shoot at fleeing vehicles but if that person driving that vehicle is using it as a weapon, the policy goes out the window.
Most policies say an officer should not shoot a moving vehicle unless it is a last resort.
Seems like an entirely reasonable action to take, give the fact that someone died. These cops are not missing a paycheck and if it turns out to be a justified use of deadly force, they will be back on a beat sometime in the not too distant future. It’s long past time to simply call every shooting death at the hands of a cop, “justifled” and then the investigation never takes place. The sad part of all of this cops vs. blacks is that every time there’s “action” on either side, it rachets up the tension and makes more deaths all the more likely.
All part of the plan to create a new alphabet agency.
Anything more than a beat cop and it’s all political.
During the 1990s, crime rates in New York City dropped dramatically, even more than in the United States as a whole. Violent crime declined by more than 56 percent in the City, compared to about 28 percent in the nation as whole. Property crimes tumbled by about 65 percent, but fell only 26 percent nationally.
Many attribute New York's crime reduction to specific "get-tough" policies carried out by former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's administration. The most prominent of his policy changes was the aggressive policing of lower-level crimes, a policy which has been dubbed the "broken windows" approach to law enforcement. In this view, small disorders lead to larger ones and perhaps even to crime. As Mr. Guiliani told the press in 1998, "Obviously murder and graffiti are two vastly different crimes. But they are part of the same continuum, and a climate that tolerates one is more likely to tolerate the other."
No they do no take away badge and gun. They do that for suspensions. Not desk duty.
Deserves got nothin' to do with it.
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