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To: ErikJohnsky

“my post is about short men who happen to be winners, not losers. They ought to be higher on the food chain than any overweight girl, and used to be before feminism and liberal social engineering”

Rollo Tommasi at “The Rational Male” (https://therationalmale.com/) has written extensively on this, and can explain the exact reason for this.

Men have much higher standards for who they will marry than who they will sleep with. Women believe that if they can sleep with a certain level of man, they should be able to marry that level of man.

There’s your disconnect.


63 posted on 07/11/2016 4:06:18 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Hillary Clinton stood next to the coffin of an American soldier and lied to his parents' face)
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To: Brookhaven

Ah, one of my favorite sites, next to Heartiste.


87 posted on 07/11/2016 8:48:15 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Brookhaven
Men have much higher standards for who they will marry than who they will sleep with. Women believe that if they can sleep with a certain level of man, they should be able to marry that level of man.

Biological fact is that men do not have to be a discriminatory as women in dealing with partners, until the decision to marry comes in. Then the man is discriminatory as to who has the privilege to use his valuable resources (especially in today's junked up society and punitive family court system). That will equate to a women with a high SMV; meaning attractive, selective, etc.

Conversely, women have to be more selective as species carriers. And that is where hypergamy comes in. Just a fact of life.

In the end, short men can make great strides in improving their game.

90 posted on 07/11/2016 8:56:52 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Brookhaven

“Men have much higher standards for who they will marry than who they will sleep with. Women believe that if they can sleep with a certain level of man, they should be able to marry that level of man.”

DING DING DING!!! We have a winner!!

The fundamental difference in the general approach to sex itself is probably the single biggest source of friction between genders, on so many levels.

A chubby cute chick with a big rack in her 20s is going to have a good shot at a lot of guys who are willing to bed her.. but most of those guys are well aware of what she is likely going to look like in 10 or 20 years, and what is a cute chubby endowed gal at 24 is most likely NOT going to have that same larger hourglass figure in 10 or 20 years.

Women, younger women in particular, also tend to think if they sleep with a man, there is more to it than just a physical attraction, and there may or may not be. And yes, sadly most men are willing to say or do anything to get laid, particularly if they are of a particular age range, so that doesn’t help the situation either.

The way women traditionally filtered those guys out was by basically requiring investment of time, effort, energy into the relationship before it was allowed to become physical, but the hypersexualization of our society means folks are jumping in bed before they even know much if at all about each other other than they have some sort of physical attractiveness toward each other. So women think they have found something more than they have because it goes physical way too quickly. And guys really don’t have to invest much to get what it was they were really after.

Getting back to the main point, I also think that this reality leads to far too many divorces in our society as well. Not justifying cheating, or the harm it does to a relationship and family, but our society seems to also conditioned women to just he cheated, I’m gone... I have witnessed families torn apart over things that really should not have..

If you are a guy above a certain age, you likely have a guy and his wife, that are no longer having sex, or not having sex often at all. Reasons can vary as to who’s rejecting who, and whos not interested anymore.. or whatever, but regardless eventually the partner who still is, is going to cheat... they are going to find an outlet... and that outlet can and is often nothing but physical... yet, particularly if its the guy, once wife finds out she’s done, divorce is filed, even if she hasn’t shown an ounce of sexual interest in her husband for years... she’s the victim,he’s the cad, and decades of a relationship collapse. Usually needlessly. Women in my experience assume, particularly if the affair was over a long period of time that there must be an emotional component, that it could not simply be physical. Again, not condoning cheating, but women in general have a harder time separating physical from emotional in that area... Guy can be quite 100% honest that it was 100% physical, and women just won’t believe them especially if it was something that went on over an extended time.

Anyway, enough battle of the sexes for now.


94 posted on 07/11/2016 9:20:16 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Brookhaven
Rollo Tommasi at “The Rational Male” (https://therationalmale.com/) has written extensively on this, and can explain the exact reason for this.

In order to understand hypergamy, it would be best to begin with an understand dating/sexual market value (SMV) vs marriage market value (MMV). Donal Graeme has a good introduction in Romantic Architecture

An introduction to hypergamy would be in his description of The Pareto Principle in which he discusses hypergamy in the context of assortative mating.

A good description of what women find attractive in men is given in Donal Graeme's piece on LAMPS (or, PSALM) : "Looks, Athleticism, Money, Status, Power" LAMPS

(Dalrock (dalrock.wordpress.com) is also very good. Dalrock and Graeme are practicing Christians, I'm not so sure about Tomassi: though both Tomassi and Dalrock are married, so forget those quips about "losers posting from their mother's basement"...)

109 posted on 07/11/2016 6:33:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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