We have everything to gain, and I don't see that we have much to lose.
Keep Pearl Harbor.
Hawaii is not American in tradition or culture, and should never have been made a state, but if it is cut loose you can bet than within five years it will be under the chicoms.
Hawaii will never be independent. It will American, or it will be Chinese. There is no Door #3.
Idiots and socialists (I know....same thing) like pretty scenery and a nice climate, too.
If we are going down this road, why not evict more states?
Has California passed the point of no return, with liberalism, radical Democrats firmly in control of Sacramento, and a critical mass of illegal aliens??
What about the Boston-Washington axis in the northeast? Are those places simply too far gone??
Can we do a divorce, and split America into the liberal/socialist/Obamacare paradise that liberals dream about, and the remainder being a more conservative country???
I think each and every single refugee should be settled in Hawaii. All of them
Split Pennsylvania from Philadelphia, all the NYC boroughs from NY state, Illinois from Chicago, eastern Washington from the Seattle/Tacoma sewage, and eastern Oregon from Portland. And maybe Missouri from St. Louis.
I think maybe we need this 57 states Obama was talking about. How should we divide things up & what would our new flag look like?
Because two minutes later China would scoop it up.
Send them all the new arrivals. The islanders will welcome them with open arms, thinking that they are just misunderstood, poor, downtrodden, oppressed, innocent, kind people like the Jones down the street.
I’m sure Hawaii would be pleased to regain its independence, seeing how it was involuntarily annexed in the first place.
I don’t know about Hawaii, but you have a good point about the general exit mechanism. Why should only the entities who want to leave determine who exits? Why should Texas have to leave the U.S.? How about if the U.S. casts off some of the anti-Constitutional states so that Texas won’t be “offended” by their statehood?
Emotionally, I would love nothing more than to see the liberals in Hawaii and Californica stew in their own juice. But what has bothered me for years is the thought that this was Obama’s strategic objective all along. Maybe this is what Obama meant when the open microphone caught Obama telling Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, “After the election I have more flexibility”. Flexibility for what was never answered. Maybe this was the communist plan all along:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123051100709638419
https://www.rt.com/politics/panarin-usa-collapse-economy-905/
Keep the bases, give them their independence.
The U.S. should have expelled every state that legalized abortion before Roe v. Wade. After Roe v. Wade, every state should have seceded.
I see that you don’t reply to any of the comment posts. Just post your screed and walk away.
FYI an overwhelming majority of Native Hawaiians voted for Statehood. There are lots of vocal anti everything people everywhere you go. Not to say there is not a lot of racism there - there is. But most people there are American to the core. And it’s Ok to have a culture.