Posted on 06/20/2016 8:51:27 PM PDT by cba123
China on Monday revealed its latest supercomputer, a monolithic system with 10.65 million compute cores built entirely with Chinese microprocessors. This follows a U.S. government decision last year to deny China access to Intel's fastest microprocessors.
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Apple pretends its products are made in America, but most are actually produced in Xian, China, which makes about 80% of the world’s chips.
Tell that to thousands of workers in Austin and Fremont making chips and components for Apple. Final assembly of Macs is in Fremont, California. By law, you can’t have that designation on your computers unless a majority of it is built in the U.S.A., otherwise it’d be labeled made in China like your PC variety computers. Most of it is manufactured here.
Independently verified, or just a face-saving exaggeration as usual for Chinese projects?
Yes, the majority of Mac CPU chips are made by Intel (perhaps 18 million Macs this year). I was primarily referring to the chips made in Austin for the iPad and iPhone devices (several hundred million a year). Made in America (well, many people think Austin is in America). The Apple TV is essentially a Mac in a box geared to delivering content on a TV, yet is powered by chips similar to the iPad. Apple already started making a shift away from Intel CPU chips for the Mac, using the Apple TV as a test case (starting with the A4). It is only a matter of time before other ARM chips power the rest of the Mac series instead of Intel. This stuff is being designed and made in the U.S.A. Not many other PC makers can say the same.
How do you say “Skynet” in Chinese?
i was in Silicon Valley when Clinton dropped pretty much all of the trade restrictions with those commie bastards. so many US companies were duped into doing business there because they had thoughts of 1,000,000,000 new consumers swimming in their heads and clouding their judgement. it was all a sham. China just wanted expertise so that they could get their tech competence up to our level (i.e. they basically stole any and all technology that U.S. businesses were dumb enough to offshore to them for production). coupled with widespread industrial espionage all over Silicon Valley by chinese engineers and scientists (honestly, why would anyone in their right minds hire a chinese tech worker or even the 1st generation of their offspring, is beyond me) and it’s easy to see how they “caught up” with the west in a mere 20 years or so. we’ll rue the day we allowed this to happen. it wasn’t just missle technology Clinton allowed them to get... it was pretty much anything and everything.
who cares where the boards are assembled?
what matters is that the chips are being fabbed over there. the intellectual property is in the chip design and it’s there for the taking (i.e., reverse engineering) when you ship your deliverables off to a fab in china or taiwan (i have no doubts that chinese sympathizers work within tech companies in taiwan) or when your company forms a strategic alliance with a chinese company. it’s like giving the wolf the key to the chicken coop.
http://marketrealist.com/2015/09/china-emerges-new-competition-semiconductor-industry/
I shall tell to you and the world but please do not tell anyone:
Any computer is going to be slow because of the hard drive, be it a normal IDE, spinning, magnetic, disc drive or the SSD drive. In other words, a computer cannot be any faster than the hard drive.
The HNIC of Apple is gay.
Given that it seems that we have convinced the Chinese to lean toward capitalism, I’ll trust a capitalist more than I would trust a gay. Besides, Apple has just cut-off the GOP.
After reading though the comments I don’t see mention that a lot of chip fabrication went overseas was due in part to stringent EPA regulation at the manufacturing level.
That’s nearly correct. The US manufacturing base wasn’t sold out, it was forced out - by the government.
The government and alphabet agencies make it practically impossible for chip-manufacturers - indeed most manufacturers - to make a profit in America.
US manufacturers face massive regulation, unlimited legal vulnerability, minimum wage laws, a for-profit Government that picks winners and losers in the market place - and the crippling effects of Obamacare. Not to mention the highest Corporate tax rate in the world.
But many FReepers still refuse to blame the Government, preferring to blowhard about ‘traitors’.
Hillary was paying attention. And now she wants to finish the job and make the largest land transaction in World history.
When we declared war in WWII, our Pacific fleet was mostly on the bottom of Pearl Harbor. Our Army was small, our weapons mostly outdated, the standard issue rifle was the M1903 Springfield that was state of the art in WWI.
At the start of the war the Germans and Russians had better tanks than we had, and the Germans had better-trained soldiers and better-trained officers. Our men rapidly became their full equals through field experience, but that came later.
What won that war, though, was US materiel. We cranked out more trucks, ships, planes, tanks, and weapons than the Axis did. Overnight Detroit shifted from civilian manufacture to military production (no, really, almost literally overnight). The Germans could take out a dozen Sherman tanks in France and a dozen more would take their place the next day. The Luftwaffe might win a dogfight or two, but when they shot down a US fighter there were two more shipped in within a week, and five more the week after that. We won that war and came out on top of the world because of our manufacturing capacity.
If the next war we fight is against China, how do you think that will go down?
We were a world power in making things, making almost everything, self sufficient, in WW2. The main things we didn’t “make” were some raw resources like industrial diamonds.
Now we have farmed out much of our industrial base. Moreover, our military is in many ways the opposite of that we had in WW2, frequently running afoul of the old saying “the best is the enemy of good enough”.
And I’ll barely give mention to the fact that morally a large part of our population is corrupt and licentious, weak and increasingly driven by notions of entitlement to what they didn’t produce or the fruits of someone else’ labors.
I’m pessimistic about the survival of the United States as a political entity, with the Petro Dollar being about the only thing keeping us from the collapse that Arbitrary government and spendthrift ways have led us to.
HOW DAMN STUPID CAN OUR LEADERS BE?
http://www.defensetech.org/2012/05/30/smoking-gun-proof-that-military-chips-from-china-are-infected/
You're kidding.
Texas Instruments has chip factories all over Texas.(I retired from the one in Houston)
But, but, but a bunch of freepers said Apple only gives a lot to liberal causes. Can they be wrong. Actually, yes. Microsoft and most others give far more support to liberal causes than Apple. It's a fact. Just saying, there's a lot of false reporting on Apple as compared to Microsoft and other tech giants. And this went on before they had a gay boss in charge. How about we go after the ones who truly are in bed with the Chinese, 100 percent?
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