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The Magic of Muhammad Ali
Secondsout.Com Boxing News ^

Posted on 06/04/2016 9:49:31 AM PDT by bigdaddy45

The guard was polite but unyielding. “I’m sorry; you can’t go any further.”

At which point, Muhammad joined us.

The guard repeated what he’d just said. “Mr. Ali; this man and this woman don’t have security clearance. I’m sure you understand how these things work. They simply can’t go any further.”

And Muhammad was understanding -- “If they don’t go, I ain’t going.”

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Yes, I know a lot here hated him. But read the article. He wasn't all bad. It will make you smile. I promise.
1 posted on 06/04/2016 9:49:31 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

His name change is interesting. It was a family name which was taken from an abolitionist who had freed his own slaves. His father had the same name. Then Cassius changed it to the name of a man who was a slave owner and slave trader when he took the name Muhammed. That was the work of a fool.

Ali debased our culture and made it popular to be an arrogant Clymer. He made Islam more acceptable in certain quarters. He did a lot of damage to the black community with these acts. And he was a coward. He would fight for his own self-interest, but not for the freedom of others. Every single punch he threw and every victory he had in the ring was as nothing compared to the deeds of those who went and fought in his place.

It is a sign of a sick culture that he is so lionized. And he played a major role in making that culture sick.


2 posted on 06/04/2016 9:53:46 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: bigdaddy45

Didn’t he die last night? I’m already smiling about that.


3 posted on 06/04/2016 9:54:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: TennTuxedo

Yeah yeah. Didn’t read the article, did you.


4 posted on 06/04/2016 9:56:02 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: BenLurkin

Well personally i’m not a grave dancer, but if thats your thing... go right ahead.


5 posted on 06/04/2016 9:57:09 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

Waiting for Jane Fonda.


6 posted on 06/04/2016 9:57:33 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: TennTuxedo

Excellent post.


7 posted on 06/04/2016 9:59:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Great story. I’ll remember it.


8 posted on 06/04/2016 9:59:58 AM PDT by BiggerTigger
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To: bigdaddy45

I read the article.

My takeaway is that is this world, some people are more important than other people. The rules apply to people like me, but other people are too important to pay attention to the rules. I mean: they know what the rules are; but they also know that they are so important that the rules will be bent for them.

I guess some people admire a two-tier banana republic type of existence. Lord knows this country goes in that direction more and more each day.


9 posted on 06/04/2016 10:11:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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To: TennTuxedo

I disagree with you on so many levels, but I respect your opinion.

He was firm in his devotion to Islam, but did not push it in your face. He was kind to his enemies outside the ring, and ferocious inside the ring. I never saw him to be an awful man, rather a funny, and caring father, a devoted friend, and a caring mentor to aspiring boxers.

He was audacious when it furthered his career, but a devoted friend to all.

A true ambassador. I often wished that this Affliction had not befell him, but he carried it with grace. Perhaps in defeat he showed how truly great he was.


10 posted on 06/04/2016 10:12:21 AM PDT by Rustybucket
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Ali: Hey, Bill, there's a woman in the Roosevelt Room who wants to meet you. They won't let her in because she doesn't have a security clearance.

BJ: What's she look like?

Ali: She's kinda hot.

BJ: Well, damn, Muhammad, bring her on in!

11 posted on 06/04/2016 10:13:57 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Of course some people are more important than other people. Fair or not, thats the way the world works. Ali had power, and in this instance used it to help someone out. You’re denying you would do the same if you could? You’d just sit there and meekly take what some bureaucrat was dishing out?

Some people follow the rules no matter what they are or how stupid they are, and some people push the envelope. The ones who push the envelope change the world.

If we followed your way of thinking we’d still be an English colony putting up with what the Queen was telling us to do.


12 posted on 06/04/2016 10:21:06 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: TennTuxedo

Oh, don’t be so hard on the Champ. After the Israelis won the Six Day War in 1967, Cassius Clay briefly changed his name from Muhammad Ali to Morris Steinberg.

(heard that joke at the time, btw)

;^)


13 posted on 06/04/2016 10:22:02 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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Yes, I know a lot here hated him. But read the article. He wasn't all bad.

All of us do both good and bad - Ali was misguided and used by the Nation of Islam, whose "prophet" recognized the value of winning Cassius Clay to his cult. As far as I can judge, his attempt to declare himself a conscientious objector was sincere. Ali treated Joe Frazier disgracefully, but he got into the ring with Frazier and took his punishment at Frazier's hands, regardless of the final outcome.

Ali was undeniably one of the great boxers of all time. Could he have defeated Joe Louis in his prime? I doubt it - but Ali dominated the heavy-weight ranks at a time when there were a lot of great heavy-weights. And there's no doubting his impact on popular culture, which was comparable to that of the Beatles - he was easily one of the most recognized figures of the 20th century.
14 posted on 06/04/2016 10:23:22 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: bigdaddy45

I didn’t spell it out, but part of my ire is base don the “security clearance” aspect of the Ali incident.

“Mr. Ali, we can’t let those people in, because they don’t have security clearances.”
“Is that important?”
“Not really — go on in.”

“Mrs. Clinton, you’ve sent and received top secret emails through non-secure channels which is a serious violation and could result in significant jail time.”
“Are you going to do anything about it?”
“Not really — enjoy your presidential campaign.”


15 posted on 06/04/2016 10:25:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah right. Because letting someone who has gotten checked for weapons, etc., yet hasn’t undergone the anal probe of a background check shake the Presidents hand is the same as putting classified documents on an unprotected server.

Oh yes, those sound EXACTLY the same.

You’re equating kidnapping with a speeding ticket.


16 posted on 06/04/2016 10:32:25 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

I’m saying rules matter.

If I get upset about Hillary not following security regulations, then I have to get upset about security regulations not being followed with Ali.

To split hairs and make distinctions — “Well, in THIS case I guess we can just overlook a few things ...” is what Clinton and Obama depend upon. That world view works beautifully for them.

I want everyone equal before the law and I want the rules enforced. Sorry you think rules are only for the little people.


17 posted on 06/04/2016 10:36:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Nation States seem to be ending. The follow-on should not be Globalism, but Localism.)
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You’re right. This is not a communist nation, we are not all 100% equal in the eyes of all things, some people get better treatment than others. That’s actually a good thing, because the ONLY way for it not to work that way is under pure Marxism.


18 posted on 06/04/2016 10:41:34 AM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Boston Tea Partiers broke the rules

The founding fathers broke the rules

Patton broke the rules

and on and on and on.

If we followed every rule every time without question... well how boring would the world be.


19 posted on 06/04/2016 10:42:52 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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You had to be there. It goes deep with some of us, but not as deep as Jane Fonda.


20 posted on 06/04/2016 10:43:24 AM PDT by anoldafvet (they're not immigrants, they're criminal aliens)
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