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Windows 10 nagware: You can't click X. Make a date OR ELSE
theregister.co.uk ^ | June 1, 2016 | Gavin Clarke

Posted on 06/02/2016 6:46:00 AM PDT by PROCON

Microsoft’s Windows 10 nagware campaign has entered a new phase, with all options to evade or escape an upgrade finally blocked.

Recently, Microsoft’s policy had been to throw up a dialogue box asking you whether you wanted to install Windows 10.

If you clicked the red “X” to close the box – the tried-and-tested way to make dialogue boxes vanish without agreeing to do anything – Microsoft began taking that as permission for the upgrade to go ahead.

Now Microsoft is changing gears.

It has eliminated the option to re-schedule a chosen upgrade time once you’ve confirmed it while also removing the red “X” close option from the screen. One Reg reader grabbed the below screenshot from a relative's PC on Windows 7.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; nagware; never10; win10; windows10; windowspinglist
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To: PROCON

Never10.com takes care of this gratis with no loading of extra software.


61 posted on 06/02/2016 8:34:37 AM PDT by Notforprophet (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: PROCON

62 posted on 06/02/2016 8:37:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PROCON

Look at “installed updates” Find the upfate ending in 5583 and uninstall it. reboot and run check for updates, the update ending with 5583 will be there again. Right click on it and select hide update.


63 posted on 06/02/2016 8:37:20 AM PDT by woodenickel
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To: Pelham
I have Windows 7 and have tried repeatedly to upgrade to 10, but no go.

Just as the download appears to be complete, I get an error message along the lines of "Uh-oh, something went wrong."

And I can find no useful tech support suggestions for fixing the problem.

Now I'm kind of feeling that it may have been a blessing.

64 posted on 06/02/2016 8:42:43 AM PDT by daler
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To: SunStar

This is NOT the same. I agree with you about Windows 10 being great, but they havent ever FORCED the upgrade on you like this. T


65 posted on 06/02/2016 8:44:30 AM PDT by Paradox (My positions can evolve, but Principles should be immutable.)
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To: PROCON; All

Feel the MicroBern! I normally don’t like feeding slimy class-action lawyers, but this time, Microshit really deserves to be clobbered. One of the machines here at work was Shanghai’d like that. A pox on Microsnot!

Yet another justification for my jumping on the Linux bandwagon in 2009!


66 posted on 06/02/2016 8:45:25 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: PROCON

You’re certainly free to do what you want, I’m just expressing my opinion. My point is that these people have already chosen Windows as their operating system, but for some reason choose to complain about being offered a free upgrade to the latest version, which is more secure and streamlined. Either upgrade or don’t, but there’s really no benefit to staying on Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 8.1. For the sake of Security alone, the upgrade is recommended. I’m in the tech industry, and we’re under attack. Windows 10 is the most secure workstation OS out there by far, and it will have a price tag of over $100 after July.


67 posted on 06/02/2016 8:48:00 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: McGruff
"Even if you get upgraded without your approval you have 30 days to revert back to Windows 7."

This is true, but whether you intentionally upgrade to 10 or are upgraded against your wishes, you are well-advised to have a system image of your previous version available. There are many reports of systems being corrupted or bricked when the reversal to the previous O/S fails for some reason.

A good friend accepted the upgrade to 10 a couple of weeks ago, and decided to revert to Windows 7. It failed, and his computer would no longer boot. I worked on it for two days before finally restoring it to factory-fresh condition using the recovery partition. Fortunately for him, I was able to retrieve all of his pictures, documents, videos and music files from an image file of his unbootable hard drive.

This was essentially a pre Service Pack 1 install, meaning that hundreds of patches and updates had to be installed to get up to current security levels. His machine still has 147 patches missing, and changes Microsoft made to Windows Update in the past year has severely crippled its operation with Windows 7.

If you have a Win 7 machine that's up-to-date, there's no problem -- Windows Update works just fine. But if you're trying to update a fresh installation of 7, it's an unmitigated disaster with the search and downloads taking - literally - hours or DAYS to complete. Some updates must be downloaded and installed with a standalone installer, using the Windows Update catalog, and the sequence of installation is often critical to whether they will actually correct the problem or not. This is well-documented on the web and in technical forums & blogs. Microsoft really screwed the pooch on this.

I have been running the technical preview of Windows 10 for close to two years, and like it a lot. But one must be very careful when diving in, depending upon your machine's hardware and potential compatibility issues with software that may require an older version of the O/S.

68 posted on 06/02/2016 8:54:23 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Hey, what happened to my clever tag line?!)
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To: trebb
The son had Win 8 and loves Win 10

MS Vista was better than Win 8.

69 posted on 06/02/2016 8:59:35 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time it is serious.)
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To: Steely Tom

Tried it...doesn’t work.


70 posted on 06/02/2016 9:05:16 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country
I still have a SpinRite CD
Back in the day when I still worked for a living, my office-mate came in one morning really bummed out. His HD had crashed and his wife's PhD dissertation was on it.
I revived the HD w/ SpinRite and he bought me lunch for a month.
71 posted on 06/02/2016 9:06:08 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PROCON; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ...
Windows 10 goes "full nag"... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

Thanks to PROCON for the ping!!

72 posted on 06/02/2016 9:14:07 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: exPBRrat
What about the add on called ‘never 10’? It was well regarded by users on the CNET.

Works so Far

A little tedious to figure out, but once installed on my Win 7 system, no more nag.

I installed it one morning after I left my laptop in hibernation, and the next morning Win10 was being installed.
I aborted it and took my chances.

Fortunately, it restored nicely.

73 posted on 06/02/2016 9:15:55 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Is there a way to just install something like Linux as the operating system and still use MS office products?”

Linux probably will install fine on most machines. The surest way to test compatibility with your machine is to “test drive” Linux by booting from a Linux DVD, which you can either buy or create from a downloaded image. You don’t have to install Linux to do a test drive, but the performance will greatly improve once you do. I would suggest Linux Mint (Mate desktop) or Ubuntu Linux (Mate desktop) as the friendliest candidates. They look very much like Windows XP.

Trying to run MS-Windows programs on Linux via an emulator is problematic at best. Far better to use a Linux equivalent product, such as the LibreOffice suite. The word processor and spreadsheet are excellent. The Powerpoint equivalent has rather basic features but is quite useable, as I have found out.


74 posted on 06/02/2016 9:20:02 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves. Socialism is governmental theft!)
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To: DungeonMaster
Yes it has impacted our company in a bad way starting yesterday or maybe two days ago.
It seems like a law suit is in order.

Include me in any class action suit!

In February, I stupidly upgraded My newest Desktop and it was totally scrambled and wouldn't even boot!

It has been useless for months while I figure out how to save all my data (Including data on my external USB backup drives!)

My expert friends and on line delusional "experts" insist that's not possible.

OK. Now STFU!

75 posted on 06/02/2016 9:20:53 AM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: PROCON; McGruff
PROCON: Thanks for the ping. I saw the Register's article yesterday and thought about posting a thread for it, but I haven't had a chance to confirm/deny the assertions yet, and I've posted a lot of threads about Win10 update woes. But given that you posted the thread, I figure I may as well ping the list.

McGruff: About your screensnap of the weather report at comment #56 -- is that real, not photoshop? That'll become legendary if true!

If this allegation about the Win10 upgrade is true, it's pretty damn serious. Microsoft's not the first company to go this far in coercing users to upgrade, but the scale of their user base makes this a different ball of wax.

OTOH, I haven't seen this effect in person yet, so I'm still looking for independent confirmation...

76 posted on 06/02/2016 9:27:02 AM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: PROCON

Bookmark


77 posted on 06/02/2016 9:31:14 AM PDT by TXLady
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To: PROCON

I can’t believe nobody’s sued them yet over this (plus hacking the software on someone else’s machine is against the law, so why no criminal charges?).

It’s my hardware, you goat fsckers!

I’m within the original EULA of Win 7 to keep it till the sun dies if that’s what I want, and if you ass crack sniffers try to prevent me from doing so, you have no legal or moral ground on which to stand.


78 posted on 06/02/2016 9:36:35 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Steely Tom

Users should not have to do this. I am trying to restore a retired couple’s PC back to Windows 7 (it is post 30 days)and keep all their apps and data intact. They never wanted Windows 10, never asked for it. They were happy the way it was and needed nothing new.
The kicker is after 30 days, you lose the option to “go back”, MS deletes the windows.old folder. I agree with others, MS needs sued over this and forced to deliver a way to get back to windows 7 easily.
Its quite easy to see that they want everyone on Windows 10 NOW so the next iteration they can charge annual subscription fee’s; its coming; the dirtbags.


79 posted on 06/02/2016 9:37:58 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: McGruff

And if you miss that 30 day window MS kindly deletes the windows.old folder.


80 posted on 06/02/2016 9:37:58 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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