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1 posted on 04/19/2016 11:49:04 AM PDT by pgyanke
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Bottom line IS Cruz jumped into bed with GOPe first chance he got for money and backing!!! We want someone to BLOW UP DC, NOT BLOW DC!!! he is NOW owned by them he will do WHATEVER they say or THEY pull the plug on the MONEY TRAIN!!! They frankly don’t give a damn if Hillary is POTUS because it will STILL be status quo for the BASTARDS in DC!!! Cruz BETRAYED his base END OF CONVERSATION!!!!!


199 posted on 04/19/2016 1:35:38 PM PDT by Kit cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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Do you want an answer, or do you want to mock, insult, and condescend?

Because if you’re not even going to consider my point of view, I’m just going to tell you to shove it without wasting my time.


212 posted on 04/19/2016 1:46:41 PM PDT by Luircin (Supervillians for Trump: We're sick of being the lesser evil!)
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Ted Cruz Campaign Song

Cruzers on Free Republic: THINK about it. Here's your peers, your homies. Congrats.

218 posted on 04/19/2016 1:54:25 PM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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At first we thought it was a miracle. Ted Cruz was the real deal, consistent true conservative. We were excited when he followed us on Twitter, sent us text messages. He was not too aloof to communicate directly with such lowly ones as us.
Then the supposed Christian started showing his ruthless side. He’d do anything to win, using terribly unChristian tactics.
After that we started noticing his horrible voice and that he uses that ugly voice to lie with consistent conviction. By their fruits ye shall know them, and the Ted Cruz fruits seem to be lies. How could we ever trust him to run our country and truly have our backs?
IMHO we can’t.


226 posted on 04/19/2016 2:01:13 PM PDT by tinamina
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In the primary, though, I want the most conservative in the race who has shown he knows how to win. That man is Ted Cruz. Why he is slimed on a conservative board is beyond me... and it saddens me. Maybe he isn't your guy... fine. Why does he have to be slimed?

I think it's because it's clear he's a pathological liar...

236 posted on 04/19/2016 2:22:06 PM PDT by Iscool (Trump/Kasich...A winning team...)
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It is becoming clearly obvious. Soon we will be seeing formal requests, it will need to be organized and backed up by legal advocates, a demand for an audit on request by the base Republican registered members to determine and publically document why millions of voters were denied their voice and vote and full disclosure of every single delegate’s actual interests they were working for, any and all directives they were given from Republican Party leaders, what if any compensation each delegate received for their allegiance to a candidate, any fidelity purchased by candidate organizations to have a delegate vote other than the votes of the election process, any machinations by Party officials to thwart the vote or manipulate the final result whether by the so-called rules or not, which rules allowed the votes of the base to be changed to another candidate who did not receive those votes, how broad were such, either designed or stealth methods, towards changing an outcome and how expansive were they practiced, how aware were the voters of such rules or violations of rules that disenfranchised any vote and what was done to communicate this to the voters, were rules never revealed to the voters or were there practices to change their vote by means of manipulation of rules, who were all the rule makers by name and whether they were paid to do so and who paid them or gave them political, financial or business favors, whether taxes were paid on such benefits or compensations, and the complete history of their involvement and delegations going back over their entire history of such since their first involvement in previous elections.

There is nothing more sacred to America than the vote. Corruptions to the process cannot and should not be tolerated anymore. This audit also needs to investigate the activities of some candidates themselves, and first needs to begin with a probe into the activities of the candidate Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina.


249 posted on 04/19/2016 2:40:24 PM PDT by ShivaFan
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One, a lot of people thought he wasn't likeable. He reminded some people of kids they made fun of in school, or (worse) of their own high school age selves that got bullied and teased, or (worse still) of the debate team captain who thought he was a big man on campus and started throwing his weight around. Maybe personalities shouldn't matter in politics, but they do.

Two, he came across too much as being "holier than thou" (or he could be seen in that light). He certainly wasn't more dishonest than other politicians, but he could be made to look like a hypocrite more so than somebody who appeared to take ethics less seriously.

In the same way, he was "more anti-Establishment than thou" and "more conservative that thou" and anything he did or didn't do that fell short of the latest definitions of anti-Establishmentism or conservatism would reflect worse on him than on somebody who wasn't seen as having made such a big deal of his own righteousness. Once voters get into a populist, anti-Establishment mood it's hard for politicians who do have connections in DC to ride the populist wave.

Ted misjudged how important being the most conservative candidate was to becoming the Republican nominee. He also misjudged the relative importance of free trade and less government to the Republican (and even the conservative) electorate. The idea that voters were angrier at the US government's Import-Export Bank than they were at banks like the one his wife works for (or at companies that outsourced jobs overseas or relied on cheap, often illegal immigrant labor) was symptomatic of the problem.

People take the side they do in politics within the frame or circumstances of the time. If the Giants are playing the Eagles and you decided that to score a team would have to carry the ball ninety miles to the goal and the game would take several months, fans and players would lose interest. It's like that with politics, too, the idea that ordinary voters would always go with the very most conservative candidate just doesn't fly. Voters are more concerned with immediate problems, rather than fulfilling great ideological designs.

272 posted on 04/19/2016 3:08:47 PM PDT by x
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Hmmm what happened? Well, there has been a certain intolerance on the part of Freepers from BOTH camps to consider the alternitve canidat. Door swings both ways...Want proof? Well this little gem came in to me after lunch today:

4/19/2016, 2:25:13 PM ·
***VA to bushwon

Of course that doesn’t stop you and the rest of Trumpetteville from jumping onto the first anti-Cruz rumor like a starved maggot on day-old dog sh*t.

Nice comment from a Cruz supporter isn’t it?!

This attack evolved into a Trump supporter attack from my simple post asking if the poster had actually watched the video before dissing the video and the poster of the video...The poster attempted to discredit a campaign fraud video that was posted by a Trump supporter. Excellent video BTW.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3422485/posts

There were other things said, but I really took offense to this comment about maggots and dog sh*t as it was over the top and directed at ME and ALL Trump supporters...This type of comment is a daily occurrence for Trump supporters.

BTW, for the record, not everyone here has always been in love with Ted Cruz...I always have had concerns about Ted Cruz because of his H-1B 500% visa increase proposals.


278 posted on 04/19/2016 3:37:04 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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Thank you for the thread. FR has seemed to abandoned conservatism for a self-centered celebrity salesman.

Trump does appear to be a a master of marketing misdirecting his minions to minor issues.

284 posted on 04/19/2016 4:15:03 PM PDT by DrewsDad (Choose Cruz - The Consistent Constitutional Conservative)
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I liked Cruz and disparaged Trump from the start.

But when Trump stood up for political incorrectness during the first debate and then rose in the polls, it changed everything for me.

It was then that I realized I wanted a culture warrior to fight for our side.

It made me realize the truth of Brietbart’s assertion that politics is downstream from culture.

Trump is the only person who has what it takes to reverse the politically correct cultural rot that has weakened the country.


331 posted on 04/19/2016 11:03:21 PM PDT by Vision Thing (mathematically eliminaTED)
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Concur.

I’ll probably end up voting for Trump in the end, but I haven’t seen anything indicating he isn’t another Ross Perot.

Most of the attacks against Cruz are consistent as simply acts of projection.


332 posted on 04/19/2016 11:24:50 PM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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Sour grape make the best whine.


345 posted on 04/20/2016 4:54:37 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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I don't get Cruz being slimed either. He's been fighting the good fight for a long time.

Trump and his supporters aren't trying to beat him by making a better case on the issues- They engage in petty nasty insults and lies- trying to destroy both his career and his credibility.

The horrendous lie that Trump has been pushing- that Cruz was insulting 9/11 rescue workers when he made his "NY city liberal values" comment is just one example.

I have no explanation for some FReepers joining in these attacks on a good man.. It's depressing to see.

I hope Cruz watches out for himself above all else. Both Trump and GOPe would love to wreck him. And we need him to stay in the fight.

We need him to stir the people to awareness of what the Constitution means and why it is vitally important that we not abandon it.

(For example: Say a multi-billionaire tries to force you to sell your house to him because he wants to make a parking lot for limos.

In any other nation, he probably takes your property away against your will because he's a billionaire and you're not. You have no power. But in the U.S.A. you have individual rights because of the Constitution. The billionaire does not have more rights just because he has more money.)

We need to be reminded of why the Constitution matters- constantly.

This is Ted Cruz's strength- And why we need him as president.

(I loved Cruz's speech yesterday, and I hope he stays with that uplifting theme, while also reminding people that Trump refuses to debate, and polls show he (Trump) loses to Hillary.)

The problem with Trump is that has made it very clear that he intends to tear this country apart if he isn't handed the nomination- rules or no rules.

This is not presidential at all. Trump has shown zero ability to unite anyone. He encourages anger and division.

I have to ask: Are these qualities of a good president? (IMO they are red flags that show he would be a terrible POTUS -if he somehow overcomes his unprecedented high negatives and beats Hillary.)

Sadly, people may have to learn about this the hard way.

I pray for my country. I'm praying that Ted Cruz will be our next president.

I will state here- that after much thought and in spite of my deep reservations about Trump- I will vote for him if he is the nominee because I do not know for sure what he will do as POTUS. (He might even turn out to be a good president after all. )

Where as I know exactly what Hillary/Bernie will do- it is 100 % certain that they will actively work to bring this nation down.

365 posted on 04/20/2016 10:24:01 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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TPA/TPP happened


366 posted on 04/20/2016 10:26:16 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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