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1 posted on 04/19/2016 7:51:16 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Fantasywriter

Ping, eh.


2 posted on 04/19/2016 7:54:18 AM PDT by OKSooner (Eh?)
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To: OKSooner

http://running2016.com/html/canadian_ted.html

Did Ted’s mother give up her American citizenship for British? Sounds that way.


3 posted on 04/19/2016 7:54:51 AM PDT by mouse1
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To: OKSooner

no you’re exactly right and I hadn’t thought of that one but it’s brilliant

if Ted Cruz was a natural born American citizen so was Winston Churchill.....

and was equally eligible to be president of the United States...


4 posted on 04/19/2016 7:55:44 AM PDT by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: OKSooner
"Am I missing something?"

Apparently. Suits have been filed in blue state after blue state to keep him off the ballots. In all cases Cruz has been declared eligible.

5 posted on 04/19/2016 7:56:34 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: OKSooner

Cruzers don’t care about the obvious. They must subconsciously approve of President Hussein, perhaps they might even be Obots.


7 posted on 04/19/2016 7:59:33 AM PDT by Enduro Guy (Trump/??????? 2016)
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To: OKSooner

There are residency rules for the American mother that affects the citizenship status of the child. It is not simply a matter of the mother being American, but where she has been a resident and for how what length of time prior to giving birth.


8 posted on 04/19/2016 7:59:45 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: OKSooner
Am I missing something?

Quite a lot. For one, Churchill was born in 1874. The first law granting citizenship descended from the mother was the Cable act of 1924.

Prior to that, only the Male could pass on citizenship.

Secondly, an act of congress granting citizenship to people is just a form of naturalization, so even if Churchill had been born after 1924, he still wouldn't be a "natural" citizen, he would be a naturalized citizen.

9 posted on 04/19/2016 8:04:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: OKSooner

Churchill was certainly English. But he played down his American mother because it would have been bad politics to put her in the limelight. The British were allied with the Americans in the war, but felt some resentment at the idea of giving them too much credit for winning it. If Churchill led the way to victory, then he had to be fully British.

As for Cruz, he is turning out to be—and evidently always was—a natural born crook.


12 posted on 04/19/2016 8:06:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"Am I missing something?"

Yes, your daily dose of Cruz Kool-Aid.

NBC means what "principled conservatives" want it to mean at the moment, not what the Constitution and legal precedent dictates that it means.

15 posted on 04/19/2016 8:19:28 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: OKSooner
Why didn't Winston Churchill relocate to America after the Labor party threw him out of office in 1945, and run for President here? He was a cool guy, right? He would have been a NBC at the time, wouldn't he? He could've kicked Harry Truman's butt in 1948. His mom was an American, wasn't she?

Maybe it is because England, with her famously sooty skies in that era, was more tolerant of cigar smoking.

17 posted on 04/19/2016 8:25:24 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: OKSooner

Cruzers are arguing that if King George fathered a child with an American woman in Great Britain. The founders have considered that child a natural born citizen of the USA and eligible to serve as POTUS? Totally ridiculous contention, which the anti-American Marxist courts would no doubt uphold.


19 posted on 04/19/2016 8:49:12 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: OKSooner
It's really quite simple:

Natural Born Citizen = citizen father + citizen mother + born in US (military & diplomats & travelers excluded)

Then there’s Obama = foreign father + citizen mother + born in US (maybe)

Then there is Cruz = foreign father + citizen (maybe) mother + born on foreign soil

21 posted on 04/19/2016 8:50:59 AM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: OKSooner
1940 Nationality Act – Section II

(c) A person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has resided in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to birth or such person.

(d) A person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who resided in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to birth or such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

In the case of (d) where only one parent was a citizen of the United States and the other was an alien, the the U.S. citizen parent had to have resided in the United States or its outlying possessions for 10 years, at least 5 of which were after attaining the age of 16 years in order to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

see: http://www.americanlaw.com/citabrd.html

32 posted on 04/19/2016 10:34:29 AM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: OKSooner
Why was that necessary? Why wasn't Winston Churchill already considered a Natural Born Citizen of the US? His mom was American, wasn't she?

Because when Churchill was born the law stated that children born abroad were citizens only if the father was a U.S. citizen.

38 posted on 04/19/2016 1:00:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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