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Hitler Couldn't Defeat Churchill, But Champagne Nearly Did
NPR ^ | 4/1/16 | NINA MARTYRIS

Posted on 04/15/2016 9:37:09 AM PDT by PatrickJames

Stories of Churchill's special relationship with alcohol are legendary. Eleanor Roosevelt, who was his host at the White House during World War II, was astonished "that anyone could smoke so much and drink so much and keep perfectly well."

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Churchill drank several brands of champagne such as Giesler, Moet et Chandon, and Pommery, but Pol Roger was his clear favorite. Every year on Churchill's birthday, the charming and shrewd Odette Pol Roger sent him a case of champagne. (His other great friend, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, sent him caviar — until they fell out over Churchill's Iron Curtain speech.)

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To: PatrickJames

“Always remember, that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me.”

— Winston Churchill


21 posted on 04/15/2016 10:23:34 AM PDT by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: PatrickJames

The drink never came close to intefering.


22 posted on 04/15/2016 10:23:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: Trump20162020

When you are in the arena as much as Churchill was, there was bound to be some SNAFUs.


23 posted on 04/15/2016 10:25:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: elcid1970
I finished reading William Manchester's epic three volume bio of Churchill "The Last Lion" late last year. There has never been a political leader as well-rounded (and I don't mean his physical shape) as Churchill. He had his faults, but his pluses far outweighed his minuses.

Liberals can't resist taking jabs at conservative heroes. In this case it's like a liberal gnat attacking an elephant.

24 posted on 04/15/2016 10:27:23 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: RummyChick

Oops, that is in error. Buckingham Palace has over 700 rooms. Blenheim about 187. It’s the grounds of Blenheim that are bigger than Buckingham Palace...or at least were..I think they sold some off.


25 posted on 04/15/2016 10:27:41 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PatrickJames

Quiz: Would you rather have as a leader, a womanizing, cigar smoking boozehound, or a vegetarian who is also an animal rights champion?

One is Churchill, the other is Hitler.


26 posted on 04/15/2016 10:35:30 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

Hitler was also a teetotaler.


27 posted on 04/15/2016 10:36:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Captain Peter Blood

No corn dogs and Twinkies?


28 posted on 04/15/2016 10:38:09 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Socialists are just communists in their larval stage.)
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To: wita

At least he would, by his own admission, be sober in the morning ... whereas his critic in that instance would still be ugly.

So what if Churchill drank?

Many an 18th century American was a proverbial, if not literal, boozing, chain smoking, honor obsessed, braggart who possibly didn’t bathe all that regularly ... and they were still much better men, whose company I would prefer, than all these genteel post-modern nitwits we have a surplus population of today.

And Churchill was no savior, just a politician with vision and backbone ... which is rare enough without trying to make more of him than he was....


29 posted on 04/15/2016 10:41:08 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: dfwgator

30 posted on 04/15/2016 10:41:12 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: PatrickJames
Moet et Chandon

Did he keep it in a pretty cabinet?

31 posted on 04/15/2016 10:48:37 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a' white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: driftless2

Didn’t know that William Manchester died in 2004. I read American Caesar; amazing how MacArthur led the peaceful occupation of Japan & gave them a new constitution.

Are there any greats among us any more, of the stature of Churchill? Any waiting in the wings, as he did?


32 posted on 04/15/2016 10:52:20 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Captain Peter Blood; driftless2
I would urge people to read the forward in William Manchester’s final volume of his biography on Winston Churchill.

I read all three volumes last year as well. I definitely could not have kept up with Winnie's drinking and dinners. I don't think I could have kept up with your fantasy dinner, either; unless it was spaced over a very long time.

33 posted on 04/15/2016 10:57:08 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ('''Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small''~ Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: elcid1970

By the way, Manchester was a political liberal. But he was able to put aside his biases and write objective bios of conservative great men.


34 posted on 04/15/2016 11:07:34 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: driftless2

I have read quite a number of Manchester’s books and I agree that while Manchester was a Liberal, he could write a very fair book on his subject matter and would put the good and the bad in it and let you make up your own mind.

His book on Douglas MacArthur was that way.


35 posted on 04/15/2016 11:09:55 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: elcid1970
Manchester had been in very bad health, although he had done most of his remaining research on his final volume on Churchill.

He picked a friend, author Paul Reid to finish it. Reid said that Manchester died while he was helping him and said one thing that was tough was trying to decipher Manchester's handwritten notes. Reid also says that so many W.W. II documents had been declassified when he came on board he re-researched a lot of stuff before finishing the book.

I spent the whole summer two years ago reading the final volume, I wasn't in a hurry and found I was constantly looking people up mentioned in the book to understand better who they were and how they fit in to the narrative.

Monumental work that was put together very well.

36 posted on 04/15/2016 11:18:03 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: PatrickJames
Yes, certainly in latter years after Winston Churchill passed away, the legendary imbibing was revealed. One is inclined to wonder how much was true. I note a recording of one of Churchill's speeches, it was claimed he was a bit inebriated. I know it was at the time of the biggest crisis in WW2. Suddenly the Panzers had struck. Neutrality was ignored and the British Expeditionary Force driven to Dunkirk. We then really thought for a short while it was nearly over. No better excuse surely could be found for some bracing drinks at the time.

My favourite account by Churchill of his younger cavalry days is of the Afghan/Indian frontier. Unhorsed, he faced a huge berserk Afghan with his calvary sword. The man was waving a whacking great scimitar. Churchill conceded he would have no chance. He calmly reached for his pistol and shot the man twice. The man did not go down, but ran behind a rock. At no time seemingly did Churchill overstate his actions on the frontier.

37 posted on 04/15/2016 11:19:37 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Eat all that and you’d achieve the nearest male equivalent of pregnancy.


38 posted on 04/15/2016 11:25:17 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

I intended to invite several close friends,


39 posted on 04/15/2016 11:54:19 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: PatrickJames
champagne is way over rated, no matter what year or brand.

JMHO

FMCDH(BITS)

40 posted on 04/15/2016 11:57:09 AM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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