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Is algebra an unnecessary stumbling block in US schools?
Associated Press ^ | Mar. 27, 2016 1:06 PM EDT | Karen Matthews

Posted on 03/28/2016 5:07:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Who needs algebra?

That question muttered by many a frustrated student over the years has become a vigorous debate among American educators, sparked by a provocative new book that argues required algebra has become an unnecessary stumbling block that forces millions to drop out of high school or college.

“One out of 5 young Americans does not graduate from high school. This is one of the worst records in the developed world. Why? The chief academic reason is they failed ninth-grade algebra,” said political scientist Andrew Hacker, author of “The Math Myth and Other STEM Delusions.”

Hacker, a professor emeritus at Queens College, argues that, at most, only 5 percent of jobs make use of algebra and other advanced math courses. He favors a curriculum that focuses more on statistics and basic numbers sense and less on (y – 3)2 = 4y – 12.

“Will algebra help you understand the federal budget?” he asked. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: actingwhite; algebra; andrewhacker; arth; commiecore; education; liberalagenda; liberalprofessors; math; matheducation; mathematics; queenscollege; statistics; stem
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1 posted on 03/28/2016 5:07:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I looked at algebra as a logical thought process

So even though many people won’t need the hard mechanics, the thought process can be applied elsewhere


2 posted on 03/28/2016 5:08:37 PM PDT by arl295
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To: Olog-hai

As I’ve said to the many students I’ve taught algebra, geometry, etc. to over the years, learning math teaches you to think and reason.


3 posted on 03/28/2016 5:10:08 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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To: arl295

Algebra is vital to calculus, which in turn is vital to all the sciences and hence all of our technology. Algebra cannot be separated from statistics either, so Hacker is talking some major doublespeak here.


4 posted on 03/28/2016 5:10:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: arl295

Actually it is a means of separating out those who ought to go on to college and those who shouldn’t Success in that course has a higher correlation to academic success than the SAT.


5 posted on 03/28/2016 5:11:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (```JMJ)
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To: Olog-hai

I wish that this had been brought up when I was in school:)

That being said yes it is necessary, thankfully I married an engineer who can help our kids with their math homework. I edit the essays.


6 posted on 03/28/2016 5:11:41 PM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Olog-hai; wintertime; metmom

If we get rid of Algebra in schools, I may have to reverse my opposition to H1B visas, as we’ll need at least some EDUCATED people to run this country (look at what happened to Africa when the colonial powers left).

Maybe Cruz was on to something after all, wanting to increase the H1B’s by 500%.


7 posted on 03/28/2016 5:12:24 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Cruz...is now a vote for Romney / Jeb / Linda / Ryan (at the convention))
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To: arl295

Some people have a real problem with algebra. Such as something as basic at -2 X -2 = 4. Why isn’t this taught like a double negative in English is?


8 posted on 03/28/2016 5:12:52 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: Olog-hai
Is algebra an unnecessary stumbling block in US schools?

A2 + 15 = NO!

9 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Stick a fork in America; she's done.)
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To: Olog-hai

I run a construction business and I use algebra everyday. Sadly, too many employees have zero algebra skills and I have to make dummy proof calculations on price sheets etc...


10 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:03 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname

I think it’s reasonable to ditch algebra. All these many decades since Algebra I, Geometry, Algebra II, college Algebra I, college Algebra II, Trig and Logistics, I’ve not used them whatsoever.


11 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:29 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: arl295

Exactly. I guess kids don’t need to learn how to work through a problem if it’s going to cut into their selfie and texting time. We already threw out teaching them how to write. No use teaching the boneheads anything else.


12 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a dump, sewer or "refugee" camp. It's my home.)
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To: Olog-hai

Not needed unless you want to learn how to reason and think logically.


13 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:41 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: RobbyS

I always did well in Algebra, got A’s in it, never understood why is was so difficult.

But yes, it does weed out, it is a logical though process that many people just don’t grasp


14 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:52 PM PDT by arl295
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To: Olog-hai

They should take out all the hard stuff. Who cares about reading, riting and rithmetic anyway? Hey, baby, que paso.


15 posted on 03/28/2016 5:13:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Sasparilla

Don’t never use no double negatives. Triple negatives are even worse.


16 posted on 03/28/2016 5:14:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Stick a fork in America; she's done.)
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To: arl295

I had a calc professor who told us we were there to learn to think.


17 posted on 03/28/2016 5:14:19 PM PDT by disndat
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To: Olog-hai

It certainly helps to factor out a math proof. The way some 8th grade teachers treat it makes some kids argue that Pie are round, not squared.

If you don’t grasp it, you will lose a lot of logical arguments if you are the arguing kind (see DinDus (all colors)).


18 posted on 03/28/2016 5:14:24 PM PDT by soycd
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To: RobbyS

Y - 4c= T Solve for x


19 posted on 03/28/2016 5:14:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Olog-hai

Thinking it was necessary for college, I took trig, analytical geometry and plane geometry in high school.

Never used any of them in college. I did take statistics which required fairly complex figuring.

I always thought plane geometry was the one which encouraged thinking.


20 posted on 03/28/2016 5:15:22 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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