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Panel: Finding climate fingerprints in wild weather is valid
The Post Star ^ | Mar 11, 2016 | SETH BORENSTEIN

Posted on 03/12/2016 9:45:28 AM PST by Bob434

WASHINGTON Climate science has progressed so much that experts can accurately detect global warming’s fingerprints on certain extreme weather events, such as a heat wave, according to a high-level scientific advisory panel.

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unbelievable! 'We can detect it because we say we can, and that settles it! Now that we have proclaimed this, anyone claiming we can't predict it should be prosecuted'- is essentially what this article alludes to now- They never do explain how they can find the 'fingerprints of man's production of CO2' in these extreme weather events- they just make the asinine claim and declare it to be truth that they can 'find fingerprints from man's production of CO2 which comprises just 0.00136% of the atmosphere (the atmosphere weighs nearly 6 QUADRILLION tons, it has just 0.04% CO2 in it due to both man and nature- of that 0.04% man is responsible for just 3.4% of that amount- meaning that the total CO2 in our atmosphere due to man is just 0.00136% of our atmosphere

How can scientists link an extreme weather event to just 0.00136% of the atmosphere? They haven't' even been able to explain how just 0.00136% of our atmosphere is capable of capturing and holding enough heat to warm the globe let alone linking such an insignificant amount of CO2 to extreme weather events!

1 posted on 03/12/2016 9:45:28 AM PST by Bob434
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Panel finds to keep the gravy train rolling they need to lie even more.


2 posted on 03/12/2016 9:46:49 AM PST by cp124 (Trade, Immigration, Intervention)
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It’s magic


3 posted on 03/12/2016 9:46:57 AM PST by Ophiucus
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... except there’s been no global warming for what, close to two decades?


4 posted on 03/12/2016 9:47:49 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Can they detect this finger print?


5 posted on 03/12/2016 9:48:42 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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It’s nice that the global warming “experts” can find these “climate fingerprints” in the weather’s “carbon footprints” but have any actual SCIENTISTS who are not funded by DemocRAT politicians ever found such “fingerprints”?


6 posted on 03/12/2016 9:49:10 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a dump, sewer or "refugee" camp. It's my home.)
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They just will not let go of man-made global warming, will they?? Well, when you have NOTHING, anything is fair game.


7 posted on 03/12/2016 9:49:27 AM PST by EagleUSA
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There used to be dinosaurs living in Antarctica.


8 posted on 03/12/2016 9:49:45 AM PST by barbarianbabs
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no no no- they just cam out and declared there ‘really has been warming after all’ (of course to come to this LYING conclusion they had to fudge the satellite data to fit the agenda- claiming that the satellites have ‘drifted off course’ and therefore an adjustment was needed to compensate for the cooler readings they got- it never ends with these LIARS!- They are now crowing about this claiming ‘deniers can’t use the excuse that there’s been no warming for 2 decades any longer’- it’s like living in a freakin bizarro world now- lies are now the truth- truth is frowned upon)


9 posted on 03/12/2016 9:52:12 AM PST by Bob434
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Pure Bandini mountain.

It is one thing to make long-term average predictions, but to say that they have isolated a AGW/CC “fingerprint” in the non-linear, chaotic behavior of weather in their models (which do not include all the variables) defies logic.


10 posted on 03/12/2016 9:52:43 AM PST by kosciusko51
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Weather events that fit the latest proposed pattern are valid examples of the effects of global warming.

Weather events that run counter to the latest proposed pattern for global warming are just random events and only idiot deniers would try to cite random events to counter settled science.

11 posted on 03/12/2016 9:53:56 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Carl Grimes.)
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Translation:

Programmers have manipulated the software to extract DESIRED results from chaotic piles of numbers through differential elimination of everything that is detrimental to having the DESIRED results exist.

As a database manager for the records of a major FedGov site since 1991, this is how it has always been done to prove your budgetary requirements for next year. Everyone does it, always have, always will, nothing illegal or unethical about it. Not unethical because it is the process you are ORDERED to follow to compete evenly with everyone else also doing it. (Still is “doesn’t-feel-quite-right” slimy in my opinion).


12 posted on 03/12/2016 9:56:45 AM PST by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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[[Weather events that fit the latest proposed pattern are valid examples of the effects of global warming.]]

No doubt- but the fact is weather is warming- then it will cool again- there is NO link to man’s CO2 though, and it certainly can’t be linked to just 0.00136% of the atmosphere

To put htis in perspective- take a thimble full of 100 degree water, drop it into an olympic sized pool of 98 degree water- once a year- and then tell us the pool has ‘catastrophically warmed’ in the past decade due to thimbles of 100 degree water beign dumped in once a year-

That’s how freakin ridiculous the argument is that man is causing climate change- Our atmosphere does not have enough CO2 to do anything regarding changing the climate- nothing- there isn’t enough CO2 to do so- there is no ‘thick blanket of CO2 preventing heat from escaping the earth’- there simply is not enough of it to blanket the globe- let alone in a thick enough layer to cause warming


13 posted on 03/12/2016 10:01:04 AM PST by Bob434
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...Climate science has progressed so much that experts can accurately detect global warming’s fingerprints on certain extreme weather events...

"Experts"

14 posted on 03/12/2016 10:01:11 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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How do they separate ‘man made’ events from natural oscillations in climate that have always occurred, like the Ice Age, etc.? They always begin with the premise that, in nature, the climate is fixed and static.


15 posted on 03/12/2016 10:01:25 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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[[It is one thing to make long-term average predictions, but to say that they have isolated a AGW/CC “fingerprint” in the non-linear, chaotic behavior of weather in their models (which do not include all the variables) defies logic.]]

Exactly-


16 posted on 03/12/2016 10:02:11 AM PST by Bob434
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How can "cattle graze on barren hillsides"? Anyone!?
17 posted on 03/12/2016 10:04:50 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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[[How do they separate ‘man made’ events from natural oscillations in climate that have always occurred, like the Ice Age, etc.?]]

They are claiming the events have ‘accelerated’- with no proof that they actually have- their word is supposed to be good enough to ‘count as science’ I guess


18 posted on 03/12/2016 10:05:13 AM PST by Bob434
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Let's put it to a vote. All those in favor of the assumption that global warming exists and is man made please say "Aye" and pick up your research grants on the way out. Those opposed can pick up your indictments from the Department of Justice on your way to the paddy wagon.
19 posted on 03/12/2016 10:15:42 AM PST by KarlInOhio (An orange jumpsuit is the new black pantsuit.)
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So in other words,they’ve developed BSing into an art form.


20 posted on 03/12/2016 10:16:19 AM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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