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1 posted on 03/09/2016 3:47:24 PM PST by navysealdad
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The 1999 movie “Strange Days” is about a police state celebrating New Year’s Eve, 1999.

In the movie, a recording is discovered and shown to the public of police gunning down an unarmed rapper.

The world is set ablaze with revolution - but not before final curtain on the movie, leaving us to guess what happens next.

Here we have a completely innocent man gunned by police on camera. The world doesn’t care even slightly.

Pulses aren’t even raised. We call out for justice, but justice isn’t even on the menu or on the schedule.

There will be no justice here. There will be no revolution. Evil triumphs over good.


2 posted on 03/09/2016 3:54:37 PM PST by Celerity
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This makes me irrationally angry.


3 posted on 03/09/2016 3:55:00 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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Its open season on ‘government haters’.


5 posted on 03/09/2016 4:10:16 PM PST by skeeter
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It was an execution meant to send a message, from the WH, to anyone that still believes in the Constitution.


7 posted on 03/09/2016 4:12:25 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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It looks like the absence of audio from the FBI’s aerial video is a serious hole in the case against Finicum. If there is audio, it will show whether a shot was fired immediately before Finicum appeared to reach for a gun, or not. Then there’s the issue of whether there was a gun in the pocket that he extend his arm towards. Lots of serious questions still need answers.


9 posted on 03/09/2016 4:23:32 PM PST by libstripper
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Why can't they simply tell us if Finicum was armed or not?

"HANDS UP DON'T SHOOT!" The FBI (not OST) shot him in the side which caused him to reach to his side.. So the FBI shot him WHILE HIS HANDS WERE STILL UP!

10 posted on 03/09/2016 4:29:28 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (u)
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Too many people have swallowed media rubbish and think this all came about over night. They have no idea that ranchers such as LaVoy Finicum have been harassed and intimidated by the government for decades. In this video LaVoy explains his run in with the BLM after they stole his water.

BTW- for those who may not know LaVoy has been working to educate people about the constitution and pledging his support to others for a long, long time.

12 posted on 03/09/2016 4:31:39 PM PST by Baynative (The people promising to raise taxes and support abortion are already rich and already born.)
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This guy was a dumb a$$. Suicide by cop. He tried to run the road block and nearly ran over one of the agents. Plus he seriously endangered all his passengers.


21 posted on 03/09/2016 5:05:27 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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bkmk for the weeknd


28 posted on 03/09/2016 5:13:22 PM PST by Faith65 (Isaiah 40:31)
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Mr. Finicum did a video days before his death while sitting
at the watering hole where his cattle were drinking. He did
a good job of simply explaining how the Feds were out of
bounds, how they had power grabbed in defiance of the
Constitution. - Then a few days later, seeing the video of
his surrender and murder; it made sense they “had” to
assassinate him in a very confusing manner to shut him up.-
I read later that Hillary Clinton had her finger in that
land grabbing. Of course, it’s muddled & muddied - like all
her projects become. With the Clintons, follow the $$$$$$$$$. It’s all they have, except the bimbos.


34 posted on 03/09/2016 5:21:26 PM PST by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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Many here are speaking of a “felony stop” or a “high risk stop” and since it was one of them then the outcome is a little more understandable.

My question is this. Why did the officers not take him into custody during the first stop? The officers had the truck surrounded and were talking to the occupants for what seemed like forever before LaVoy took off.

It really seemed more like the officers wanted him to keep going rather than taking him at the first stop. Like the pursuing officers were the hammer and the anvil was set up down the road.

Which is unbelievably scary considering these are straight up infantry tactics.....by the federal government against an American citizen.


57 posted on 03/09/2016 5:52:02 PM PST by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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having seen the tape and audio. i think i understand what he was doing, overall.

i believe he was incrementally resisting without physical response (passive resistance) in order to give the individual law-enforcement officers room and time to decide to disobey their superiors’ orders and back off as they should have. there was no threat whatsoever here to the public.

i think he was very determined to carry that civil-disobedience strategy out until they either killed or captured him. he may have also been trying to protect his passengers at the same time by drawing attention and fire away from them and to him.


60 posted on 03/09/2016 5:56:36 PM PST by dadfly
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75 posted on 03/09/2016 6:08:34 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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what does the FAMILY’S AUTOPSY show...???


143 posted on 03/09/2016 6:55:26 PM PST by zzwhale
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Federal officials announced Tuesday that two of the rounds fired, which did not contribute to Finicum’s death but were aimed at the vehicle, were not reported by the FBI. As a result, both the agent who fired the rounds and four other agents who are suspected of helping him cover it up, are under criminal investigation for failing for report the gunshots.

This is an example of why there are no "good cops". There are bad cops, and the ones that cover for them. That totals out to 100%.

Now...why did they lie?

186 posted on 03/09/2016 7:49:39 PM PST by Fundamentally Fair (Is that just what you have written on your "What Trump Means to Me" chalikboard?)
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The Pentagon just admitted they've used drones to assist in rescues and other domestic activities.

I've been wondering, you see the 'blacked out' areas around the drone footage covering Finicum's murder? IS THAT BLACKED-OUT BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS A U.S. MILITARY DRONE OVERSEEING THE AMBUSH?

203 posted on 03/09/2016 8:09:35 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (u)
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ping


237 posted on 03/09/2016 8:42:59 PM PST by gloryblaze
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He seemed like a nice guy and I am very sympathetic to the situation he was in, but the video clearly shows him reaching toward his waist. The second he did that, the officers had no choice but to shoot.

We can’t say one thing here on FR about blacks in similar situations and another for a white guy who is one of us.


344 posted on 03/10/2016 7:29:21 AM PST by ALASKA (Disgusted.....)
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All I need to know about the Lavoy Finicum shooting I learned here on this thread.

After reading through the ad nauseam back and forth arguments I can without reservation state that this shooting was entirely justified, that the video was clear, and even though I was not there I am able to watch the edited clips as they are released and agree with all here who state that Lavoy got what he was wanting, frontier justice.

Yup, even though the drone footage was shot from a thousand feet away, with this high definition zoom footage it it clear, very clear, that he was reaching for a Beretta 92F serial #65573xxx, loaded with Hornady 135gr flex lock critical duty self defense rounds, HELL...I’m pretty sure it was in a POCKET HOLSTER!!!

Damn, Lavoy, you were some idiot to think you could get yourself into this situation and come out of it with your life. You Freedom Loving Patriot You! I’ll bet any who would consider standing up to the Federal Goverment for any injustice in the future would think twice now!.......

wait a minute.


348 posted on 03/10/2016 8:02:05 AM PST by gettinolder
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To: navysealdad; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; ...

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433 posted on 03/10/2016 5:09:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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