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Seeking help on home office question
03/04/2016 | self

Posted on 03/04/2016 2:24:56 PM PST by enduserindy

The IRS has some pretty clear rules as to a home office deduction. My questions are on decorations. I do not want to use any decoration expenses. I do however want an aquarium in my office and some items like an alligator head, stereo etc. Can anyone tell me if items like these are allowed in my home office?


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1 posted on 03/04/2016 2:24:56 PM PST by enduserindy
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To: enduserindy

Will the alligator head be in the aquarium tank? I must know this to look up the appropriate tax code.


2 posted on 03/04/2016 2:29:44 PM PST by w1andsodidwe (Barrak has now won the contest. He is even worse than Jimmah.)
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To: enduserindy

Haveing worked out of my home previously, your best bet is to maximize the square footage as it is documentable. I would not itemize decorations. If you want a aquarium, buy one. Don’t try to expense it. Keep your expenses to the necessities required to have the space function. Nothing more.

The more crap you put in there the more you invite an audit.


3 posted on 03/04/2016 2:31:06 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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There is a standard deduction available now so you don’ t have to itemize. I’m a remote worker and never had enough square footage or expenses to meet the % test.

Just google “home office deduction’ and you’ll get all the info.


4 posted on 03/04/2016 2:34:16 PM PST by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO! Treason is the Reason! Impeach the Kenyan)
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To: enduserindy

I wouldn’t use it. Use the square footage % of the house, business use of computer/printer/supplies. Percentage of utilities, taxes, etc.

Unless you are seeing patients in your home office where an aquarium would have a calming effect and is only worthwhile to your business.

I need to add, I’m not a tax attorney, just use a home office deduction for myself and for my son’s business at his house. I am VERY careful on what I deduct and always error on the side of caution.


5 posted on 03/04/2016 2:34:49 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: enduserindy

For my Wife’s home office we have furniture, a desk and file cabinets as scheduled depreciating assets.

The computer(s) are scheduled slightly differently (though I cannot remember the difference).

I can see an aquarium as a deduction if you have clients over on occasion.

We have artwork in our home but have never deducted any of it as we have purchased it personally.

I do remember that you can get a $12.00 deduction for donated underwear if your name is Bill Clinton, though.


6 posted on 03/04/2016 2:35:15 PM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: enduserindy
You can have anything you want in your office. Are you asking if you can expense those items?
7 posted on 03/04/2016 2:40:04 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: enduserindy

It depends on your party affiliation. If you are a Democrat, you can itemize dustbunnies, crayons and gaming equipment. Since you are posting here, you probably cannot itemize alligator heads and fishies. Only Dems can itemize fishy things.


8 posted on 03/04/2016 2:44:34 PM PST by bluejean (The lunatics are running the asylum)
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To: enduserindy

You can put anything in your home office you want since it can be any room in your house. DO NOT start claiming anything except sq footage of the room.


9 posted on 03/04/2016 2:55:39 PM PST by Donglalinger
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To: enduserindy

Would those be deductible expenses if you rented an office? I think the answer is yes. If you are deducting a percentage of rent/mortgage, utilities of your home based on square footage, why not do the same with the aquarium? It would be easy to justify especially if you ever have clients gone to your home for business.


10 posted on 03/04/2016 2:57:05 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Donglalinger

Why can a dentist deduct it but not a home office worker?


11 posted on 03/04/2016 2:58:14 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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It will set off the audit alarm bells at the IRS. A home office can be just computer in a spare bedroom, not a place where you meet customers etc.


12 posted on 03/04/2016 3:06:43 PM PST by Donglalinger
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To: Donglalinger

What IRS reg says that?


13 posted on 03/04/2016 3:10:25 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: enduserindy

Why don’t you just contact the IRS and ask them?


14 posted on 03/04/2016 3:12:52 PM PST by TomServo
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To: enduserindy

Deducting an aquarium shouldn’t be a problem. It’s no different than taking a deduction for an oriental rug or a desk or installing a picture window in your office. Keep the receipts - that’s the key for all home office deductions.

Good luck in your business venture.


15 posted on 03/04/2016 3:14:01 PM PST by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: enduserindy

The home office deduction is a trip wire for the IRS.

I would tread lightly.

My home office is a room along the back of my garage. It is about 1/15th of the square feet in my house. One year I made an error on my return, correcting it the next year. Boom! Full blown audit.

The auditor was a nice guy and my books were in order and it all worked out. But it was about 100 hours of pain in the ass.

If your fish tank is worth that...give it a shot.


16 posted on 03/04/2016 3:18:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: Donglalinger

You might want to read what the IRS says:

https://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Home-Office-Deduction

Look under part 2 of requirements to claim the deduction. Meeting with clients in your home is right there.

The wisdom of taking this deduction would depend a lot on the overall expense versus the amount of income to the business is generating, and what kind of a business it is. For example, any kind of personal service business such as a financial advisor, or career coach etc. that the business could claim need to create a calm soothing environment so that the clients can think clearly with reduced anxiety, would have no problem selling the IRS on the deductibility of her aquarium in the office. It’s no different than a dentist or a doctor’s office. If it’s lumped in with office furniture and decor know is gonna know it’s an aquarium anyway.


17 posted on 03/04/2016 3:18:55 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: enduserindy

The office has to be exclusively for business. Having an aquarium could invite an argument that it is used personally and then could lose entire deduction.


18 posted on 03/04/2016 3:21:47 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I agree, I have a home office but it's just me and a computer, I see no clients. A home office where you actually greet customers is a different animal.

I have a PS4 and a big screen TV in my room but could never deduct it, but it's fine to be in the room.That was his original question I think.

Since he didn't really say what type of home office it would be I was only thinking of my type that I have here.

19 posted on 03/04/2016 3:31:33 PM PST by Donglalinger
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To: enduserindy

I had an aquarium with a rare Japanese fighting fish but there was in incident involving a priceless Samurai pen and, well, I had to write both off. It’s all on tape:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbcqg_70i-w


20 posted on 03/04/2016 3:38:44 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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