Posted on 02/27/2016 9:37:11 PM PST by ConservativeTeen
In Thursday nights debate, Donald Trump put in a word for Saddam Hussein and Moammar Qaddafi, in a way. He said that, if those two were still in power, instead of having terrorism all over the place, wed be at least they killed terrorists, all right?
The fact is, they were terrorists. And funders and shelterers of other terrorists. (Abu Nidal, for one, in Saddam Husseins case.)
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“Trump seems to admire the brutal application of force”
I fear some, not all, but some of his supporters want the same thing done to those who oppose him
I hope he replaces most of our government workers with cheap labor to be honest.
BTW, why isn’t Trump in jail if he broke a law? He was sued for having deep pockets when a contractor did the hiring. Other than that?
‘Yet he admired what he perceives as their ‘strength.’
Do you understand the difference between ‘admire’ and ‘acknowledge’?
Learn from your enemies. Recognize their willingness to fight. Study them. Take note.
All warefare 101, what any commander in chief should do.
And since you weighed in, Scott, do you agree with dschapin that Trump is a facist?
Yes, he should try to find people as ignorant of the government as he is. That should be a real challenge, yet for the Gotterdammerung wing of the Trump movement it should be their goal.
‘So, the mullahs’ unleashing of the basiji militias to slaughter Green Movement Iranian protesters in the streets of Tehran in 2009 was - in Trumps thinking - an act of ‘strength’ as well?’
Scott, do you want to destroy the enemies of radical islam? I don’t. To me, Saddam Insane was a special case. He needed to be taken out.
But my disagreement with Trump on that point is not 100%. Saddam and Gadaffi were moderates. They curbed fanatical Islamics. I would be thrilled to have a president who does not destroy all of the fanatics’ enemies. That’s being smart.
So your twisting around of Trump’s logic reveals to me that maybe you understand it enough to pervert it with your example.
‘Yes, he should try to find people as ignorant of the government as he is.’
Especially to run the IRS.
I want his army of illegal immigrant government workers to live in their offices and get pay cuts as compensation. I want them to be illiterate, unable to file government forms. Better yet, can’t speak English.
That’s my fantasy.
Trump is so rich, just ask him, that he’ll pay off the national debt.
I'm not disagreeing with that -- Ghadaffi and Saddam were indeed the lesser of the "available" evils in that region. They aren't the issue.
What I take exception to is Trump's admiration (however qualified) of the Chinese government's "strength" in its crackdown on protesters at Tienanmen Square. You do remember those protesters were peaceful and unarmed, do you not? Thus my question about the similar crackdown by the mullahs against the Green Movement. Does Trump see "strength" in that as well?
To legitimately seek clarification from candidate who has in the past voiced a rather peculiar response to mass murder is far from "twisting his logic." Trump doesn't need help twisting his logic, he does quite an effective job of that himself.
So my question stands... would Trump regard the mullahs' crackdown on the Green Movement in 2009 to be an act of "strength?"
Nope. I haven't seen enough evidence to conclude Trump is a "fascist." However, he is showing some tendencies toward authoritarianism.
And there’s a whole handful of FReepers who are down with the idea of an authoritarian government led by Trump.
‘What I take exception to is Trump’s admiration (however qualified) of the Chinese government’s “strength” in its crackdown on protesters at Tienanmen Square.’
Okay, you care deeply about the USA. At least your least your responses are reasonable.
So I respectfully disagree. I simply don’t think he’s a horrible monster.
But there are looming questions that have been popping up recently. Polish workers exposed to aspestos. That would have been a good zinger during the debate. And then there’s the pop-up question Cruz insinuates about mob ties. Where was that in the debate ?????
If there’s any validity in those claims, however, why did Trump’s critics wait so long? Tomorrow is Super Tuesday.
Bottom line — vetting time is most likely over now.
I never said or implied that... but his comments about wanting to "open up libel laws" against the media, his praise of the Chinese government's "strength," and other comments speak to a tendency that points toward an authoritarian nature. Now.. some FReepers actually are down with that (I even have links to such comments -- quite revealing, actually), because perhaps they regard a "strongman" leader as someone under whom they would feel more secure. I for one prefer a leader who honors and follows Constitutional spirit and law. But that's just me being too "old-school" in my thinking, I guess. But -- all this no longer matters. A strong plurality of GOP voters, abetted by quite a few "helpful" crossovers from the dems, is stating loudly it wants Trump to go forward and face Hillary in the general. While I detest both of them, I happen to detest Hillary with a greater degree of intensity, so my vote will be cast against her.
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He was actively violating the terms of the ceasefire from Gulf War I, not allowing inspectors to go where they wanted to go and taking shots at our planes defending the no fly zone. He also murdered many thousands of Kurds right under out noses.
That alone was justification for taking him out.
I agree 100%
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