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The 'great engine game' behind new Boeing jet project
stltoday.com ^ | February 20, 2016 9:00 am | Tim Helpher Reuters

Posted on 02/21/2016 2:02:13 PM PST by BenLurkin

Boeing aims to broadly replace its 757 model, a top-end narrow-body jet with a single aisle.

The new model would try to rewrite airplane economics by being wide enough for two aisles to seat seven people in each row, but able to produce the skintight margins of a smaller single-aisle, six-abreast plane such as the workhorse Boeing 737 and Airbus A320.

Airbus calls the project a bluff and says it reflects Boeing's frustration at losing market share to its A321.

One of the designs on Boeing's drawing board is an unusually oval-shaped cross-section, rather than a rounder shape typical of most designs. It strips away unneeded cargo space and would potentially be made of weight-saving carbon-composite, industry sources say.

It would also need a new engine that could cost $5 billion to $6 billion to develop.

That comes at a time when engine makers are split over the latest engine technology and marking time in the shifting alliances between General Electric, Rolls-Royce and Pratt & Whitney.

Pratt & Whitney, elbowed out of the commercial market by Rolls and GE in the 1990s, is on the rise again with a geared turbofan design that went into service last month.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; generalelectric; prattandwhitney; rollsroyce
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1 posted on 02/21/2016 2:02:13 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

That geared turbofan sounds really interesting.


2 posted on 02/21/2016 2:05:02 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Well that certainly sounds uh, cozy? Maybe we should have them narrow the seats to oh, say 14 inches. For that snug fit. LOL! You probably don’t want a window seat in this case.


3 posted on 02/21/2016 2:11:09 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: BenLurkin

They should be seeking to put passengers where the overhead bins currently are, because that’s what airlines would buy.


4 posted on 02/21/2016 2:40:20 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30
Hey Boss! Looks what I found on the internet! A new seating plan!


5 posted on 02/21/2016 2:44:12 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rktman

Hateful seats ?
I nominate the A-319.


6 posted on 02/21/2016 2:47:58 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: rktman

I gave up flying coach class when I found out there was an FAA and ICAO regulation that said if I flew coach I was to be seated between a 400lb German that didn’t bathe and a 17-yr old mother with a 12-month old colicky baby with inner-ear problems.

Have not flown coach since 2000.


7 posted on 02/21/2016 2:59:00 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Hulka

LOL! Kudos. We haven’t flown for a few years and don’t have any plans to fly any time soon.


8 posted on 02/21/2016 3:01:22 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

The blame goes to the airline normally. They decide on the seat configuration.


9 posted on 02/21/2016 4:03:09 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: BenLurkin

Thinking inside the box again. Why 2 aisles. Put seven across with a single aisle. No reason you couldn’t have 4 and 3 instead of 3 and 3.

Probably need to spend a little on the front end to train the folks used in the timed evacuation drill.

Looking at the numbers, the original 757 could seat up to 239. The modern 737 can now cram in up to 220. So they have actually already replaced the 757. What they probably need to replace is the 737 that would seat 85 to 124. They gave that market to the Brazilians and to a lesser extent, Canadians.


10 posted on 02/21/2016 4:14:28 PM PST by PAR35
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To: BenLurkin
I still like the blended wing idea:


11 posted on 02/21/2016 4:16:53 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PLMerite

A little bit of info on blended wing.
http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/12782/why-are-there-no-blended-wing-passenger-airplanes-in-operation


12 posted on 02/21/2016 4:42:27 PM PST by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: DennisR

In the past 60 days, we’ve flown on two airlines flying A-319s.
Both seats were awful.


13 posted on 02/21/2016 4:42:47 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: BenLurkin

this story is hard to believe

we are well into the 21st Century.

yet Boeing thinks every plane they build
needs its own special engine


14 posted on 02/21/2016 5:55:39 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: VaRepublican

Interesting. Reality always has to get in the way of a good idea. Thanks!


15 posted on 02/21/2016 6:49:32 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

That’s in poor taste, and very funny!


16 posted on 02/21/2016 7:38:11 PM PST by T-Bone Texan (The Bush family is a parasitic growth that must be excised.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Truth. A turbofan with a reduction geared fan. Whooda thunkit?


17 posted on 02/21/2016 7:55:32 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Seats might have been made by the same company. There are very few companies who make them.


18 posted on 02/21/2016 10:15:54 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR
We flew on an Embarer 170/175 last week, a medium sized passenger jet built in Brazil.
The Seats were covered in blue leather, reclined back better than any seat on an American made airplane.
It's a shame AA can't match the Brazilians...
19 posted on 02/22/2016 5:39:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: PLMerite

“I still like the blended wing idea”

Unless you are riding outboard. . .imagine the up-down travel when the aircraft banks.

Roller-coaster. . .weeee. . .


20 posted on 02/22/2016 1:33:04 PM PST by Hulka
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