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Windows Phone sales have almost ground to a halt (Android+iOS now own 98% of the smartphone market)
Engadget ^ | Feb 19, 2016 | Steve Dent

Posted on 02/19/2016 4:41:25 AM PST by dayglored

Gartner has released its smartphone stats for Q4 2015 and the news is especially bad for Microsoft. In Q4 2014, the software giant owned 2.8 percent of the smartphone market -- not great, but still good enough for around 10 million units sold. In the same quarter of 2015, however, Windows Phone sales fell to 4.4 million, giving the OS a mere 1.1 percent of the total market. That means that it's basically in a death spiral, as consumers and app developers alike lose interest. Microsoft's rumored Surface Phone now looks like its last hope to rescue the division.

The rest of the smartphone news ain't great either, as the overall market grew just 9.7 percent, the least since 2008. Apple, for one, saw a big dip in its market share from 20.4 percent to 17.7 percent year-over-year, which jibes with reports that iPhone sales have dropped after booming earlier in the year. The good news for Apple is that it boosted its share a touch in 2015, and that it's reportedly introducing a lower-cost iPhone to compete in the mid-range market.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: android; ios; windowsphone; windowspinglist
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All the recent phone news seems to be about Apple, so I thought I'd find some about Windows Phone. Unfortunately, it's not very good news.
1 posted on 02/19/2016 4:41:26 AM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; amigatec; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; ...
Ruh-roh ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 02/19/2016 4:42:00 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Microsoft should focus on it’s core business. PC operating systems, and stop venturing into areas where it has no advantage.


3 posted on 02/19/2016 4:53:31 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: dayglored

Could be that the push of Win 10 and its spyware has made folks lose interest. Given their underhanded PC OS business strategies, god knows what doors Win will open on your phone (that crooks could also use). Especially worrisome if you use the phone to pay for everything.


4 posted on 02/19/2016 4:55:02 AM PST by fruser1
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To: dayglored
Microsoft's rumored Surface Phone now looks like its last hope to rescue the division.

Looks like we might have an "Osborne II" situation here. Microsoft has abandoned previous generations of PDA/Mobile Phone devices before (e.g. Windows CE). I think they can still carve out a chunk, but it will cost them. Include Microsoft Office on the devices if they aren't already, and any other software that phone users who use Microsoft at work could use.
5 posted on 02/19/2016 5:03:09 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Microsoft started too late and kept too many people guessing as to its commitment for phones. I’m probably going to get with the LG G5 or Galaxy 7 Edge in a couple of months.

It’s a shame, because I really like my Windows phone. It’s been problem free.


6 posted on 02/19/2016 5:06:08 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Ouderkirk
Well that's just the thing. Desktop OS systems are a dying business as everything is moving to mobile platforms - where iOS and Android dominate. If Microsoft cannot get their foot into this space, their long term prospects are not good.

Speaking for myself, I retired my last desktop system a few years ago. But I have nearly 10 mobile devices in the household, mostly consisting of smartphones and tablets. All run iOS.

7 posted on 02/19/2016 5:09:52 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (17); Cruz (11); Rubio (10)
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To: dayglored

Smartphones will probably end up being peoples main computers. Combined the phone (as the computer brains) and a desktop docking system with a larger screen and keyboard and storage, and that will probably be the future desktop system for home or business use.


8 posted on 02/19/2016 5:14:00 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: SamAdams76

I wouldn’t call desktop systems and OSes a “dying business”, just a mature, commoditized one. I work on big databases on my home desktop system, and even for general browsing, the desktop computer is scads better for anything that isn’t inherently mobile (e.g. GPS) or needs a touchscreen.

Besides that, businesses live on desktops and laptops (which are often used as desktops. Mine at work is pluigged into three monitors, and a keyboard designed for grown American man hands). Microsoft still makes lots of money and lots of profit, and will do so as long as they can hold ontothe enterprise.


9 posted on 02/19/2016 5:18:54 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: dayglored

I think it’s really simple. There are not enough apps.


10 posted on 02/19/2016 5:23:12 AM PST by Phillyred
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> I think it's really simple. There are not enough apps.

That's certainly a factor, and thus the Catch 22 -- in the highly competitive market for apps, what developer wants to write for a platform with so little market share?

It's positive feedback -- in a downward spiral.

11 posted on 02/19/2016 5:28:01 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: dayglored

Brad Sams this week had a report/opinion that MS is following the Google path with phones. Google has it’s Nexus phones but the big sales go to it’s Android partners. Nexus has only 1 or 2 models, other manufacturers are responsible for the bulk of sales.

MS may continue a couple of phones, Lumina or possible Surface branded, but let it’s partners make most of the models.

IIRC Brad claimed there were 70+ OEMs on board.

The report may have been on TWIT/Windows Weekly, https://www.thurrott.com/ or both.


12 posted on 02/19/2016 5:28:24 AM PST by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: r_barton

Isn’t that what MS Continuum is? I’m now really sold on tha except in special cases.


13 posted on 02/19/2016 5:31:40 AM PST by prisoner6 (Unmutual and Disharmonious)
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To: r_barton

That’s exactly what I have been waiting for. A pocket sized, cell phone/computer with a powerful CPU that will connect to a docking station supporting a full sized keyboard and monitor. The 950 XL was close but Verizon doesn’t support it. I’ll have to stay with my Lumia Icon for now.


14 posted on 02/19/2016 5:32:30 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Dr. Sivana

Cell phones are getting to the point where they have enough computing power where they can do all that. You would only need a dockjng station to plug in your phone that everything else plugs into.


15 posted on 02/19/2016 5:36:57 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: dayglored

I guess Amazon phone is down at the bottom of the list under other, and they were giving them away and may still be giving them away.


16 posted on 02/19/2016 5:46:34 AM PST by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: Jonty30
Cell phones are getting to the point where they have enough computing power where they can do all that.

They are getting to the point where they can do what a low-end desktop was doing ten years ago. Even with my desktop firepower some database and spreadsheet functions can take hours. Once you are talking about docking stations with 4 TB hard drives, we aren't talking about phones anymore.
17 posted on 02/19/2016 5:48:03 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: dayglored

Microsoft’s “big-brother” Windows 10 isn’t going to help anything. Trust in the company is falling. Who wants to be part of a constantly monitored ecosystem?


18 posted on 02/19/2016 5:48:56 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: dayglored

Maybe, just maybe, it’s due to the supposed release of the iPhone 7 in September. Why by old models when a new one is around the corner.


19 posted on 02/19/2016 5:55:30 AM PST by Bobby_Taxpayer
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To: Dr. Sivana

I’ve been using the Nokia Lumia Icon with Windows for over two years now and am very happy with it. I like the simple, clean interface and the fact that it comes with MS Office. I have been able to find good versions of apps for whatever I want to do. I do hope the Surface phone comes to fruition at some point.


20 posted on 02/19/2016 7:02:59 AM PST by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Socialist, Muslim president!)
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