Also check out # 76.
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Posted on 02/17/2016 4:51:49 PM PST by Leo Carpathian
We see tremendous push from government for Apple to facilitate back door access to encryption on phones. This apparently to crack the terrorist's iPhone to find out who are their contacts, etc. This appears to be excuse to bypass privacy of phone users under the guise of security. Feds were ignorant to traffic around the terrorist's house. Now the phone is the key to find out who are their contacts? What does the phone reveal that records at the service provider, log of phone calls, doesn't? Where is the NSA and their records and alerts of possible terrorist activity? I can see record of my phone calls at Verizon, time and phone numbers and messages. GPS tracking programs show history of movement of cell phone, don't need the encryption off phone. Smells like another big lie from big brother in order to gain control of citizen's privacy. What happened to Hillary's private server and communications covered by NSA???
And Obama’s real birth certificate “may already exist” somewhere. What matters is whether or not you can prove it’s there and compel it to be released. Both of which are irrelevant in this case.
Apple does not own this phone. They are being compelled, not to deliver information (the purpose of a search warrant), but to create a method to get the information the feds want. That’s ludicrous on its face.
Also check out # 76.
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This is all about erosion of rights and citizen privacy and has squat to do with terrorism.
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However brief.
Do you take or make personal calls at work via the desk phone? Does the company charge you, or do they track it so you can report it to the Feds?
If you’re mobile and they give you a phone, is it any different? If your company does BYOD to work, do they compensate you, or do you get to deduct it?
At which point does all this become so much silliness?
“The little “i” in iPhone should be for ISIS’: Families of San Bernardino victims slam Apple for defying court order and refusing to unlock dead terrorist’s phone
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3451960/The-iPhone-ISIS-Families-San-Bernardino-victims-slam-Apple-refusing-court-order-telling-hack-dead-terrorist-s-phone.html
Shows photos of the victims. Not graphic. Just know they are dead and Apple refusing to allow the gov’t to help stop future attacks.
Damn straight, sweetie.
Trump speped in it on this one.
Don’t discount my tag.
stepped.
Gawd, the phones get smaller, and the eyes, well ...
Hard-coded password exposes up to 46,000 video surveillance DVRs to hacking
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3398550/posts
Apple cannot dump or unlock and that’s the point.
The only way in is to overwrite the current OS with a newly created OS - a tool which can then be subpoenaed and used to open any iPhone.
The issue is how does the government force someone to do or create something — that can only be answered at the SCOTUS level which was how 0care came to be forced on everyone.
A gay joke on an Apple thread. How original. Are you 12?
Perhaps I hit a little too close to home for you.
Even 16-digit encryption is doable.
Not sure about that.
My math on the fly may be wonky, but using numerics alone, I come up with 10 quintillion possibilities with 16 digits. At 5000 tries a second (don’t know if this possible) my math shows over 63,000 years.
So 50,000 tries a second would still be 6,300 years.
And if they used an alphanumeric password, you’re looking at 36 to the 16th power or 7,958,661,109,946,400,884,391,936 possibilities. At 50,000 tries a second, you’re probably talking longer than the heat death of the universe.
Technically they aren’t asking for a backdoor, they are asking for an OS update to be loaded onto this phone. Either way bad juju for personal liberty.
Yeah, an OS update CONTAINING a backdoor.
What was your point?
Well, technically still not a backdoor in the conventional sense.
The new OS will allow the FBI to disable the time delay and erase the phone after 10 tried feature. Then they will still try to hack the password the old fashion way.
And depending on the phone model, the OS model, and whether or not the shooters used a 16 digit passcode AND/OR alphanumeric digits, it still could be impossible timewise, i.e. over 6000 years with a 16 digit numeric passcode.
But of course they could hit it on the very first try.
It's more than removing the access shutdown. They also want feedback from the OS to indicate password possibilities and try to exclude less likely candidates. There's all sorts of metadata feedback possibilities. NSA would be basically writing the specs for the backdoor OS based on their own cracking strengths.
I just can’t imagine such a thing as “privacy” anymore than I can Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny being real.
The concept that every bit of data about you can’t be known by the powers that be(either corporate or government) if they really want to is about as quaint as crystal radios, black and white TV and Californians using their turn signals, pretty 20th century. A quaint concept with no bearing in the modern world for anybody who doesn’t commute to work on a zebra.
LOL!
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