Posted on 02/12/2016 2:12:41 PM PST by conservativejoy
Trump's supporters loved his promise this week to create a "deportation force†to remove all 11 million illegal immigrants living in America, and his repeated declaration that everyone here illegally will “have to go."
But his supporters tend to overlook is his other promise - repeated in a recent debate - that under his immigration plan "they will come back."
That's right. Under Trump's immigration plan almost all of 11 million illegal aliens (save for a small minority with criminal records) will get to return and get permanent legal status to stay here in America.
Trump supports amnesty.
On the Kelly File Thursday, Trump's son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:
The point isn't just deporting them, it's deporting them and letting them back in legally. He's been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but its deporting them and letting them back legally.
Eric Trump is right. His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.
Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing. In an interview with CNN's Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:
I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. A lot of these people are helping us ... and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do. I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal.
This is a policy called "touchback" and it was first proposed in 2007 by moderate Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (TX). She offered a "touchback" amendment on the Senate floor that would have required illegal immigrants to return to their home countries to apply for a special "Z visa" that would allow them to reenter the United States in an expedited fashion and work here indefinitely.
Her amendment lost by a relatively close margin, 53-45. It was supported by most Republicans and even got five Democratic votes - Sens. Claire McCaskill, Max Baucus, Jon Tester, Byron Dorgan and John Rockefeller all voted for it.
The idea was considered so reasonable that in an April 22, 2007 editorial entitled "Progress on Immigration," the New York Times declared:
It's not ideal, but if a touchback provision is manageable and reassures people that illegal immigrants are indeed going to the back of the line, then it will be defensible.
So what Trump is proposing today - sending illegal immigrants back to their home countries and then allowing the "good ones" to return in an "expedited" fashion - was endorsed by the liberal New York Times!
In fact, the idea even got the support of - wait for it - illegal immigrants.
In 2007, the Los Angeles Times did the first telephone poll of illegal immigrants and asked whether they would go home under a "touchback" law that allowed them to return with legal status. Sixty-three percent said yes, 27% said no and 10% were undecided. If they were promised a path to citizenship when they returned, the number who said they would leave and return legally grew to 85%.
Donald Trump's detractors were aghast at his invocation during the Fox Business debate of President Dwight D. Eisenhower's "Operation Wetback" which forcibly removed 1.5 million illegal immigrants, and his promise the following day to establish a "deportation force" to remove the 11 million illegal immigrants living in America today.
Never mind the fact that we already have a "deportation force" - it's called US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
The fact is, Trump won't need a "deportation force" or an "Operation Wetback" to get illegal immigrants to go home - because he has promised that they can return quickly with legal status.
The vast majority of illegal immigrants say they would voluntarily cooperate with Trump's plan.
If anything, the "touchback" plan Trump endorses was attacked by conservatives back in 2007. In an editorial, National Review called touchback a "fraud" that gives illegal aliens “their own privileged pathway†ahead of "applicants who have complied with US immigration laws."
That is precisely what Trump is proposing. Under his plan, illegal aliens don't have to go to the end of the line behind those who have complied with our immigration laws. They get an "expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal." They get to cut the line and then stay in America.
So if you get past Trump's bluster, the plan he is proposing is so liberal that it earned the support of the New York Times and the opposition of National Review.
The reason is simple: Trump's plan is in fact a form of amnesty - you just have to leave the country briefly to get it.
So when Trump says of illegal immigrants "they all have to go," don't overlook the fact that under his plan almost all would be able to immediately return – and stay.
This means there is very little difference between his plan and what John Kasich and Jeb Bush are supporting.
And most of his supporters don't even realize it.
Keep in mind that once they have “touched back” to their home country....they are out. You get them to leave willingly, then lock the door once they are on the other side of it.
Just a thought.
Reminds me of the Mission Impossible line where Cruise does his magic trick and then says "why you were down there and I was up here ..."
He is the prime example of "finger-in-the-wind" politics.
How much did BJ Clintoon pay him?...or is it just for grins?
Trump is 100 times smarter than that. He’ll bring back only the good ones.
* College Educated
* Business Owners
* Teachers, etc
These will be mainly Conservative folks, not the typical democratic voters.
Trump; I'd Expedite Legal Immigration Process for Good Illegals After Getting Them Out (Breitbart)
I hope the trumpets have the bravery to come back here after the duping is complete.
This is definitely the fly in the ointment with Trump. His supporters need to make clear to him that this is a sticking point. If he wants to win the Presidency, he’ll have to change that stance.
That wall that Trump supporters love will be a dang revolving door.
What’s the point.
So...if they get sent back and the good ones apply and get approved to come back, according to you THAT is amnesty, BUT legalizing them ALL, deporting none of them isn’t amnesty?
LIke phony lawyer Cruz says, “Imagine”......
What did the Candidates say about immigration in their announcement speeches?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3396178/posts
Cruz Mar. 23, 2015
Instead of the lawlessness and the president’s unconstitutional executive amnesty, imagine a president that finally, finally, finally secures the borders.
And imagine a legal immigration system that welcomes and celebrates those who come to achieve the American dream.
Yes, that is the totality of what Cruz said about immigration.
He talks about bringing back the ones who do jobs that Americans won’t do.
As a personal favor to me.
It got him second place in Iowa!
Well, that would work far better than a wall. But unfortunately Mr. Trump has no knowledge of conservative economic theory.
Trump has already made some of my dreams come true. He stood up to PC. Dared talk about a wall. Dared to express desire to stop Muslim immigration. He says it like it is to the media.
I could almost die happy FROM HIS CAMPAIGN ALONE.
So I trust him more than Cruz, whom I liked a lot until I saw him campaign.
Was that a joke?
He will bring back the ones willing to work for low wages for his corporate buddies.
And if they take away jobs from U.S. Citizens... well, stuff happens, don’t ya know.
Very astute. There is a one to one correspondence between Cruz’ increased lying-as-strategy against Trump and the increase in lies about Trump disseminated by his supporters.
And how strange is it that most of Ted’s big $$ donors are amnesty/TPP hacks???
Trump has already made some of my dreams come true. He stood up to PC. Dared talk about a wall. Dared to express desire to stop Muslim immigration. He says it like it is to the media.
I could almost die happy FROM HIS CAMPAIGN ALONE.
So I trust him more than Cruz, whom I liked a lot until I saw him campaign.
Kinda sad.
Trump yelling at the media made your dreams come true?
I don’t like The Media but they don’t run the country.
I want someone who will be a good President.
LO you are like a doll with pull string that repeats only a few phrases.
Tired old lies.
I won’t be giving you another second of my time :)
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