Posted on 02/02/2016 6:32:22 AM PST by bolobaby
I'm seeing a lot of questions about how Rubio got 23% of the vote in Iowa. The answer is surprisingly simple, although it is likely to inflame Trump supporters.
Trump has extremely high unfavorable ratings - possibly the highest of any presidential candidate since the metric began being measured. There are countless conservatives who simply *will not vote for him under any circumstances*. (Disclaimer: I am in this camp.)
Meanwhile, Trump supporters have been doing their best to discredit Cruz. Along with the establishment - who hates Cruz - it's a veritable piling-on. What the Trump supporters don't realize is that *attacking Cruz will not win Trump support*! Too many people will not vote for Trump, so if you discredit someone like Cruz, they start looking PAST Trump at the rest of the field. Who looks most palatable of the remaining candidates? Paul? Bush? Fiorina?
Why not Carson? Well, his debate performances were almost Stockdale-ish. OK, maybe that's too harsh. More like boring.
Meanwhile, Rubio did alright. So he looks like the next best choice.
Now, the people who will fall into this category are being swayed by specious attacks. They are unlikely to recognize that Rubio has been bought and sold by the GOPe - he's firmly in Boehner's and McConnell's pocket.
But there you have it.
So Rat vs Snake is all you got??
Death by Poisoning or Death By Hanging??
Seduced or Raped??
Not much for options
Right! If a dem is elected into the WH again we can all kiss America goodbye!
Trump is not a nose... he doesn’t even live on the conservative face in many people’s minds. Plus, he brings obnoxious to a whole new level.
I’m simply saying that, for many, they were burned by supporting McCain and Romney. Now, they’d either...
1. Let Hillary win and place the responsibility of the country failing with the (D)’s where it belongs.
2. Not vote for Trump, but have him win anyway. Then, when he betrays conservatives, they can say, “Well, I didn’t vote for that buffoon.”
Seems like a simple choice.
I’m stunned how many out there do not know what a trojan horse Marco Rubio is. He is in this, handpicked, by the worst of the worst in GOP politics. They also control Paul Ryan and put him where he is.
The Rubio Deception.....MUST READ!
https://klsouth.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/refresher-rubios-deceptions/
[snip]To understand Rubio, you have to understand his Chief of Staff; a man by the name of Cesar Conda. Who is Cesar Conda? He’s a pro-amnesty immigration lawyer, who once worked as a DC lobbyist for the Association of Immigration Lawyers [video], mutual friend and close associate of fellow amnesty pusher Grover Norquist, who together have carried out their three-decade long Amnesty Jihad. Like Norquist, the amnesty pushers on the left like Cesar Conda.
Norquist, a corporate lobbyist and co-founder of the Islamic Institute, has had ties to CAIR, radical Islam, known terrorist financiers and unsavory relationships with Muslim activist for years. This video warrants particular scrutiny of Norquist, who actively promotes and advances the Islamic agenda. These are Norquist’s bedfellows; it’s why he actively petitioned support for the “Ground Zero Mosque” and it’s why he is very active in “Muslim outreach.”
Norquist is on the Advisory Board of The Hispanic Leadership Fund, member of the Council on Foreign Relations [CFR], Founder of Americans for Tax Reform [ATR] and good pal of felon Jack Abramoff and GOP stooge Karl Rove whose Crossroads GPS group has been a major donor to Norquist’s fund. Secret emails exclusively obtained by Breitbart News show the libertarian Cato Institute, Norquist’s ATR, and Rubio colluding on immigration reform “messaging” after the Boston Marathon bombing.
And, then there is Norquist’s lobbying on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Norquist’s primary interest in DC is Norquist. For his part, he is hitting the media trail attempting to combat what he calls the “bitter enders” who oppose the bill by trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.” Also assisting Rubio, Conda and Norquist in their Amnesty scheme is the Southern Poverty Law Center [SPLC], a Soros-backed group. SPLC’s history.
Cesar Conda sat on the Editorial Advisory Board with George Soros of the publication, The International Economy Magazine. He also actively worked to promote and advance Judge Sotomayor’s nomination. Conda was a lobbyist for the powerhouse private prisons GEO Group who supported open borders and government money for incarcerated illegal aliens. He also lobbied for the US Chamber of Commerce, who supports the Gang of Eight Amnesty bill. His paw prints also extend to the expensive bank bailouts, something Rubio claims he was against.
Conda is a domestic policy wonk. His government experience runs deep. In fact, Conda has weaved and bobbed between so many roles in Washington he was included in Roll Call’s “Fabulous Fifty” list of top congressional aides. He undertook policy roles spanning the 1996 Dole-Kemp to Mitt Romney’s 2008 Presidential Campaigns. Both Conda and Norquist worked together to destroy prop 187 in California in the 1990’s.
But, what also sets Rubio’s office apart is Cesar Conda’s supposed continued ties, major abuse of power, and financial relationship with his lobbying firm, Navigators Global. Navigators clients included GlaxoSmithKline, AT&T, Visa and Citigroup, which got $45 billion under the bank bailout. Rubio’s ties to K-Street are extensive. His deputy chief of staff, Sally Canfield, is a former lobbyist for Sanofi-Aventis, a French drug company.
And, from 1997 to 2005 Rubio himself, was a lobbyist. Consider what one of his most vocal critics said about him here, which likely put a halt to Romney selecting Rubio as VP candidate. Consider: City commissioner, lawyer, lobbyist, one-time GOP Party of Florida American Express card holder, top-echelon House leader and, ultimately, House Speaker, oh and Jeb Bush water boy. Florida is a politically corrupt state. From 2000 to 2010, there were 781 federal convictions on corruption charges. That’s an average of one every five days for 10 straight years.
Like Conda, Rubio has amnesty as a core belief. He is John McCain with an ‘accent’; and without a military record of crashing planes. His past record is relevant. All you have to do is look at history. This page provides history of the efforts of Floridians to enact immigration enforcement legislation in the 2008 Florida Legislative Session. All legislative results were thwarted, at the time, by House Speaker Marco Rubio.
Rubio stalled and “blocked” all enforcement bills in Florida stating: “There is nothing the state of Florida can do unilaterally to solve global warming. And there is nothing we can do unilaterally to solve immigration.” Rep. Juan Zapata, R-Miami and Miami Rep. David Rivera, the son of Cuban exiles, usually ran anti-enforcement interference for Rubio in the Florida House.
But there were other legislative matters. Rubio pushed for free in-state tuition for illegal aliens on Florida taxpayers dime. He fought to allow a “self pay” (no insurance) for medical care without the hospital collecting a balance on the hospital billing; while prohibiting the hospital from pursuing civil remedies. This would serve illegal aliens by protecting them from detection. And he made an attempt to keep all “working papers” (such as dead bills) from seeing the light of day to the public.
Rubio’s Amnesty Scheme
Rubio’s shenanigans started with the ‘deceptive messaging’ of ‘de facto’ amnesty. As Front Page Mag points out, there’s a big difference between not fully enforcing the law & legalizing a crime. Just as there is a difference between not arresting a drug dealer and legalizing heroin. A lack of proper enforcement is not ‘de facto’ amnesty. Its lack of enforcement. Amnesty is legalization. The bill was a cocktail of lawlessness, executive discretion, and legalistic trickery crafted by the organized, open-borders left.
Its fake provisions in S.744 are outlined here. Sadly, Rubio was PIMPING his ‘de facto Amnesty’ scheme on all TV and radio shows including Univision and Telemundo. He was featured in this TV ad which was run on Fox News as part of a $300,000 ad buy bought by The American Action Network, a group founded by former Sen. Norm Coleman and GOP donor and long-time activist Fred Malek. Two cafeteria Republicans.
And, this ad was from Mark Zuckerberg’s new “FWD.us” group; which drew scrutiny, even from Factcheck.org. Zuckerberg had a similar group making similar ads for liberal audiences. The advisory board of the shell “conservative” group included Haley Barbour, former lobbyist for the government of Mexico, and several people linked to the ‘open border’ Bush family; Sally Bradshaw, former chief of staff to Jeb Bush; and Dan Senor and Joel Kaplan, former W. Bush advisers.
When it came to pushing illegal alien amnesty, Senate bill S.744, Rubio spun words like a North Eastern Liberal. This wasn’t just amnesty. It’s was INSTANT AMNESTY. The massive implications of millions of foriegn invaders being pumped into the electorate was and is detrimental. Rubio was complicit in actively assisting the Democrats in their biggest voter registration drive in history; 30 million illegal aliens is enough to create some 50 new congressional districts - primarily Democrat.
Rubio is even worse than Romney, and that’s saying something.
Then, when he betrays conservatives...
And, he WILL betray us...
Well, it’s a theory.
“Rubio is even worse than Romney, and that’s saying something.”
Yep! Rubio is a vote for the democrats..pro amnesty, pro TPP, handpicked by the K St. Lobbyists.
According to Jebby and Marco (Schumer Jr.) you would be committing an "act" of love.
Oh, I’m with ya. Rubio is totally bought and sold by the establishment. That’s why I support Cruz, who is hated by the establishment and actually has conservative principles.
I’m just explaining that Rubio is the result of the “NOT TRUMP” effect and the constant Cruz bashing.
I will NEVER vote for Cruz. He is no different than Rubio...career weasel politicians both. Trump is the only candidate who can beat the witch. Cruz would lose in a landslide, Rubio would lose just not as badly as Cruz.
Really? Then perhaps you can explain why Trump loses in head-to-heads against Hillary and Cruz wins?
Only candidate my arse...
Yep, commit suicide or be executed, What a Country!
“Rubio is totally bought and sold by the establishment. That’s why I support Cruz, who is hated by the establishment and actually has conservative principles.
I’m just explaining that Rubio is the result of the “NOT TRUMP†effect and the constant Cruz bashing.”
You contradict yourself. Cruz’s bashing Trump has cost him as well, how did you miss it?
Also, I respect your “never Cruz” position. I understand the muck that’s been thrown in your eyes to get you there. Fine.
Just understand that the “never Trumps” outnumber the “never Cruzes” by a HUGE multiple. That’s the point.
Explaining Rubio..
Rubio ran hard in Florida as a Tea Party-er and won. Got to Washington and his vanity and lack of core values allowed him to be sucked into the Gang Of Eight. Now he needs the GOPe to help him to win. He refuses to admit he was wrong and babbles along with “The American Public will not let us do immigration reform until we seal the borders.” He is trying to walk a tightrope. We know the GOPe will come up with some silly standard like 75% for the seal and then falsify the data to prove the border is sealed. Rubio has no core values other than a desire for power. IMHO
Mrs. Clinton will be the next president unless Barak Hussein decides differently. America went over the edge in 2008 and the parachute failed to open in 2012. The rocks at the bottom are 353 days away.
But now I expect Rubio to start saying he’s “Severely Conservative”.
I’m not sure that we have crossed the Rubiocon.
Ah - I see what you aren’t getting.
It’s the fact that many START in the “absolutely never Trump” camp. Obviously, bashing will cost both candidates support, but when someone is bashed away from Cruz, they will - more likely than not - NEVER go to Trump because of his massive unfavorables.
People me be bashed away from Trump and wind up in the Cruz camp because more people will accept Cruz. Just look at any FR thread where the question is “If candidate X doesn’t get it, will you go for Y?”
In these informal surveys, you’ll see a handful of “never Cruzes” and a flood of “never Trumps.” This is an extension of the unfavorability polls.
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