Posted on 01/25/2016 7:13:33 PM PST by Citizen Zed
The plaintiff, Walter L. Wagner, asserts that Cruz is not natural born as defined by the Constitution because only one of Cruz's parents (his mother) was a U.S. citizen at his time of birth in Canada and because, he alleges, their intention at Cruz's birth was "to have residency or citizenship in a foreign (non-U.S.A.) country."
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In 2008, Wagner filed suit in federal court against the U.S. Department of Energy and European Center for Nuclear Energy Research (CERN), alleging that the Large Hadron Collider particle accelerator might create a black hole that could destroy Earth -- and that the governmental entities were covering up this risk.
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Why don’t you file one Duchess47? can’t afford the filing fee?
But Walter L. Wagner and Luis Sancho contend that scientists at the European Center for Nuclear Research, or CERN, have played down the chances that the collider could produce, among other horrors, a tiny black hole, which, they say, could eat the Earth. Or it could spit out something called a “strangelet” that would convert our planet to a shrunken dense dead lump of something called “strange matter.” Their suit also says CERN has failed to provide an environmental impact statement as required under the National Environmental Policy Act.
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This is not the first time around for Mr. Wagner. He filed similar suits in 1999 and 2000 to prevent the Brookhaven National Laboratory from operating the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider. That suit was dismissed in 2001. The collider, which smashes together gold ions in the hopes of creating what is called a “quark-gluon plasma,” has been operating without incident since 2000.
Mr. Wagner, who lives on the Big Island of Hawaii, studied physics and did cosmic ray research at the University of California, Berkeley, and received a doctorate in law from what is now known as the University of Northern California in Sacramento. He subsequently worked as a radiation safety officer for the Veterans Administration.
Asking a Judge to Save the World, and Maybe a Whole Lot More
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/29/science/29collider.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
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“he alleges, their intention at Cruz’s birth was “to have residency or citizenship in a foreign (non-U.S.A.) country.””
I know of nothing in the law that says that disqualifies someone from becoming a natural-born citizen, but unlike that Swiss nonsense about “Les naturels,” that does seem to be a reasonable natural-law requirement.
The problem for the would-be plaintiff, my understanding is that Cruz’ parents had not established official residence in Canada, and returned to the United States.
I’m trying a different tack. Why do something where I know they will say I have no standing?
How do you figure that? The senior Cruz naturalized in Canada. That requires establishing residence.
The NBC Clause of Article II must be tested.
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I agree. But the test must be conducted through the lens of original intent. In other words, what were the meanings of the words and phrases used at the time Article II was written. I don’t know where you’d come up with a truly unbiased group of people to look at it. Certainly not our current Supreme Court.
There is always an issue of standing. Hillary has standing . You don’t argue she doesn’t . And the court will rule how?
Can’t they claim racism and just ignore it. Worked for Obama...
Maybe he’ll sue to shut down other particle accelerators, too, not just Hadron.
If the left wants to take Cruz out with this, they can and will. They have no sentimental attachments to consistency or logic.
He sounds reasonable.
Let’s get him on Fox and Msmpms
“IF”— You mean “ when” — right?
No point in pulling the trigger until he’s nominated, if he’s nominated. Obama could be collateral damage, but he was ostensibly born in the US. That tells you the tack they’ll try to take.
NOT ostensibly. Two state Secretaries of State filed official requests for verification of Obama’s birth facts. By law the HI state registrar had to legally verify any submitted birth facts that matched what was claimed on a legally-valid BC (BC’s that are considered prima facie evidence so the claims on them are legally presumed to be true absent evidence to the contrary).
What the SOS’s received back had the stamped signature of state registrar Alvin Onaka but the embossed seal of DOH director Loretta Fuddy, which is only to be used to certify HER signature. IOW, what HI sent out is not lawfully certified; Hawaii did NOT provide legal verification as required by statute, and the only lawful explanation is that nothing that was submitted could be legally verified.
So what was thought by almost everybody to be verification of Obama’s birth facts was actually, instead, LEGAL VERIFICATION that the birth facts could NOT be verified.
And if Trump and Cruz play it right, that fact could be used to legally expose the whole 2008 coup in a court of law.
os·ten·si·bly
äˈstensiblē,əˈstensiblē
adverb
apparently or purportedly, but perhaps not actually.
“portrayed as a blue-collar type, ostensibly a carpenter”
synonyms: apparently, seemingly, on the face of it, to all intents and purposes, outwardly, superficially, allegedly, supposedly, purportedly
“it is ostensibly a book about football”
OK, different definition than in my Webster’s New World Dictionary. By your definition he could “ostensibly” be born in Hawaii - but only because people failed to recognize what Hawaii’s response to those requests actually legally indicated.
So I guess we’re on the same page - except I think Trump needs to sue immediately, rather than giving the dems the opportunity to take down Cruz after he’s the nominee (if he is the nominee) or after he is Trump’s VP runningmate (if that would come to pass).
Cruz’s mother registered his birth at the US consulate. Cruz wasn’t ever naturalized because he was a US citizen at birth. Cruz had no control over the fact that Canada automatically granted him Canadian citizenship at birth.
He renounced it 15 months ago, so he had some control.
Cruz never voted in a Canadian election. He never got a Canadian passport. He was 4 years old when his parents moved back to the US. Good grief!
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