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To: SandRat
Every few years someone (often, but not always, a Palestinian sympathizer) will write an article claiming that a lot of Jews supported the Nazis. Or were Nazis. Or bankrolled the Nazis. Or something. The story often changes - and is always nonsense - but the point is the same: the writer is trying somehow to blame the Jews for the genocide perpetrated against them.

This, to me, seems kind of like the same thing. Did some free blacks own slaves? Sure. Does that shift the burden of responsibility away from the slavers, and the great plantation owners, all of whom were white? Of course not.

8 posted on 01/24/2016 10:13:58 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I believe that the relevance of this story is not that he was a free black who owned slaves but that he was reportedly the first person in America to establish a legal right to own another person as a chattel slave.

Previously, indentured servitude was a contractual relationship. You agree to pay for me to come to America and I will agree to work for you for an extended period of years, but you would not own me even during the period of servitude and certainly not after.

Courts recognizing a right of ownership of slaves was necessary for the existence of slavery.


11 posted on 01/24/2016 10:29:49 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Alter Kaker

I think you miss an important point. The story illustrates that slavery is not a White invention; it is a human invention. Good and evil are distributed amongst all the races. Attempts to make out that that whites are intrinsically bad are political rather than historically factual.


12 posted on 01/24/2016 10:31:35 AM PST by FairWitness (Everything is easy, once you've done it once)
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To: Alter Kaker
Does that shift the burden of responsibility away from the slavers, and the great plantation owners, all of whom were white? Of course not.

Google is your friend. Your "factoid" is FALSE. You would do yourself a sevice by reading up on actual history, and noting that your basic tenant is based upon fantasy, and not historical, documented fact - substanciatied with court cases, biographies, newpaper reports and other documentation.
Source

15 posted on 01/24/2016 10:58:02 AM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Alter Kaker
I thought conservatives believed in individual personal responsibility. I had nothing to do with the institution of slavery or the evil Hitler and his disciples caused. I have never owned a human being... And if I wanted to take the time I could make a good case that under the US tax code I am an indentured servant. Whose fault is that?
22 posted on 01/24/2016 12:43:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Alter Kaker
I guess the irony is lost. Anthony Johnson was the first legal slave owner in British North America one in court and screwed over Casor. Your analogy needs to be modified by pointing out that a Jewish man convinced Hitler to execute the Final Solution in order to fit your premise.
23 posted on 01/24/2016 12:49:19 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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