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New finding may explain heat loss in fusion reactors
phys.org ^ | January 21, 2016 by | David L. Chandler

Posted on 01/21/2016 1:45:42 PM PST by BenLurkin

A long-standing discrepancy between predictions and observed results in test reactors has been called "the great unsolved problem" in understanding the turbulence that leads to a loss of heat in fusion reactors.

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[I]t turns out that interactions between turbulence at the tiniest scale, that of electrons, and turbulence at a scale 60 times larger, that of ions, can account for the mysterious mismatch between theory and experimental results.

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The expectation by physicists for more than a decade had been that turbulence associated with ions (atoms with an electric charge) was so much larger than turbulence caused by electrons...that the latter would be completely smeared out by the much larger eddies...

The new findings show that this conventional wisdom was wrong on both counts. The two scales of turbulence do indeed coexist, the researchers found, and they interact with each other so strongly that it's impossible to understand their effects without including both kinds in any simulations.

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Far from being eliminated by the larger-scale turbulence, the tiny eddies produced by electrons continue to be clearly visible in the results, stretched out into long ribbons that wind around the donut-shaped vacuum chamber that characterizes a tokamak fusion reactor. Despite the temperature of 100 million degrees Celsius inside the plasma, these ribbon-like eddies persist for long enough to influence how heat gets dissipated from the swirling mass—a determining factor in how much fusion can actually take place inside the reactor.

Previously, scientists had thought that simply simulating turbulence separately at the two different size scales and adding the results together would give a close enough approximation, but they kept finding discrepancies between those predictions and the actual results seen in test reactors. The new multiscale simulation, Howard says, matches the real results much more accurately.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: fusion; stringtheory; tokamak

1 posted on 01/21/2016 1:45:42 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Back to the drawing board for fusion warming.


2 posted on 01/21/2016 1:57:57 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG

Blame Cow farts


3 posted on 01/21/2016 2:03:06 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: BenLurkin

Landau damping


4 posted on 01/21/2016 2:10:48 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall noshi)
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To: BenLurkin

Don’t be discouraged. Fusion is only 40 years away. It has been for the past 70 years. ;-)


5 posted on 01/21/2016 2:12:17 PM PST by r_barton ("Trump" word origin "Triumph" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
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To: r_barton

Looks to me like they may be on the verge of a breakthrough.

Nut heaven knows, I’m no scientist.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 2:14:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Two seconds after fusion becomes a viable energy source,
look for some liberal to try to ban it.


7 posted on 01/21/2016 2:16:05 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lavaroise

Wow. Just looked that up on Wikipedia.

WAY over my head!


8 posted on 01/21/2016 2:17:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: MrB

[ Two seconds after fusion becomes a viable energy source,
look for some liberal to try to ban it. ]

Paul R. Ehrlich ~ Liberal Wonk and Propagandist

“Giving society cheap, abundant energy... would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun. “

I do not trust these Libtard Control freaks like Paul E


9 posted on 01/21/2016 2:18:47 PM PST by GraceG (The election doesn't pick the next president, it is an audition for "American Emperor"...)
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To: MrB
look for some liberal to try to ban it.

Because they'll likely be in the pocket of the major oil companies.

There was a kernel of truth in the movie Chain Reaction. Fusion energy will not be well received by TPTB.

10 posted on 01/21/2016 2:21:19 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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To: BenLurkin

That’s an easy one to explain. Someone left a window open.


11 posted on 01/21/2016 2:33:11 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

That’s not the motivation I was thinking of.
See the post above yours for the motivation that most leftists would have.

Affordable energy = freedom


12 posted on 01/22/2016 5:47:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Thanks BenLurkin.

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13 posted on 01/22/2016 3:14:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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