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To: Cincinatus' Wife

You must have watched a different debate, I saw Ted Cruz double down on his abominable ‘New York values’ gambit, and the crowd didn’t go for it, but whatever gets you through the night CW, if you’re beginning to like Cruz, that is a dangerous sign, considering your kiss of death which resulted in Rick Perry and Scott Walker flaming out, you do recall that don’t you? LOL


3 posted on 01/15/2016 12:16:44 AM PST by mkjessup (What will stink more as it burns in Hell? Hillary Clinton, or that pantsuit of hers?)
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To: mkjessup

As I posted to another thread:

Do you remember all the American flags flying after 9-11?

Well, of course you do.

I still keep one on my car (had to replace it once). When I go out to the parking lot now, it is the only car with an American flag on it.

I do remember.

It wasn’t just NY and NYC that rose up, it was the entire country.

Cruz was poking Trump in the chest about his use of Alinsky tactics - promoting liberal talking points.

Trump (to boos) said the “birther” matter hadn’t concerned him before but now that Cruz is moving up he had made the tactical decision to use it (paraphrasing).


5 posted on 01/15/2016 12:19:42 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mkjessup

You focus on only part of the debate. Cruz did get on Trump just as Cincinatus’ Wife said, and he also talked about the “New York values”.

But the vast majority of Americans really agree with the “New York” statement, all of us fly-over people. And there is little chance for either of them to carry New York anyway, especially Manhattan.


6 posted on 01/15/2016 12:22:32 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: mkjessup

Please leave off the personal attacks. You can make your point quite eloquently without attacking a fellow FReeper.


9 posted on 01/15/2016 12:29:53 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: mkjessup

... if you’re beginning to like Cruz, that is a dangerous sign, considering your kiss of death which resulted in Rick Perry and Scott Walker flaming out, you do recall that don’t you? LOL
No surprise at all that we saw a different debate. I can admit DT got the better of Ted on the NY thing. You can’t admit Ted got the better of Trump on all else.
DT lied about the 45% Chinese tariff and admitted he was only going on about the BC because Ted is gaining on him.
Do your BC principles include the fact that the DT’s mom was not an American citizen at birth?


61 posted on 01/15/2016 2:16:23 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: mkjessup

you ought to hear the ex NYC cops ad firefighters laughing about retiring to the NC coast on some of the obscene overtime and bonuses they got in the months after 9-11. I live on the NC coast. I’ve had beers with them and heard it.

NYC values.


77 posted on 01/15/2016 3:29:30 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: mkjessup

...if you’re beginning to like Cruz, that is a dangerous sign, considering your kiss of death which resulted in Rick Perry and Scott Walker flaming out, you do recall that don’t you? LOL


That’s what I’m thinking. It’s the kiss-o-death! ;-)


96 posted on 01/15/2016 4:52:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: mkjessup

You must be a Yankee. I can’t stand New York, or most New Yorkers. They come down South with their weird, rude, and in your face bully ways. We wish they would go back.

The New York Daily News front cover today is exactly why we don’t like New Yorkers. New Yorkers first inclination in every second in every day is to burst out with four-letter words.

It is likely that many FReepers have at some time or not mentioned “California” values, or “Hollyweird.” That is just like “New York Values.” New York is not like the rest of America. Neither is California.


105 posted on 01/15/2016 5:37:08 AM PST by Tzfat
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To: mkjessup
Actually those were two separate issues....Cruz definitely put Trump back on his heals on the birth issue.....and he showed it. Trump took it in the New York issue by raising 9/11...not much Cruz could say in response.

No doubt they both did well in the debate...which was by far the best we've seen yet.

123 posted on 01/15/2016 9:20:05 AM PST by caww
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