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Is Levin about to go Beck?
opinion | 01-14-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 01/14/2016 6:24:56 AM PST by ShivaFan

I can just sense it. Yesterday, it almost happened, and everything is being couched in words, words that perhaps are felt to be needed to ready others for the "whys" and "what fors", words that indicate it is going to happen. Who am I to judge? Levin was one of those who lead the charge against the gang of eight. For that, I will always love him. Even if he goes Beck.

Decades ago, I recall turning on the little Japanese made transistor radio and going through the AM dial and listening in on "Doctor" Steuart McBirnie and his "Voice of Americanism" radio show. This would be the late 1960's and into the 1970's, I cannot pin point the exact time frames but early 70s should be correct. Yes, that would be the times. Most of you have no idea who I am talking about.

A great anti-communist. He was heard on hundreds of radio stations. He died I think in the 1990's. The human voice is very powerful. You may not know him, but he was a giant. Like Levin is today. Of course, Levin has a much farther reach than the "Doctor" did back then. McBirnie was the trail blazer, however, for what was to come. "Americanism" was both a sort of a whole milk word, it might have even been "confusing", yet it was appropriate. The "Voice of Americanism" from Glendale, California. More would come, especially with the battles that Ronald Reagan had to undertake and the establishment opposition, some of the times were epic. AM Radio played no small part. Victories were to come. Many more after McBirnie were to come. You know, California is called the "Left Coast" for no reason, but from the Left Coast the greatest came, including McBirnie, and then came Rush out of Sacramento, California.

Of course, Reagan was attacked as being a former Democrat. An "entertainer". "Rich". On and on, a lot of it sounded like the same attacks on Trump. Actually, the attacks were very similar to the attacks on Trump. That he wasn't a "conservative" then, will he change again and Reagan become a Democrat? And the Republican establishment was vicious on Reagan, who risked so much of his personal wealth and ability to even make a living at all. Because they definitely went after that, his ability to even make a living. The same huge risks that Trump is facing, every angle being used. Reagan was extremely brave. I think Trump is extremely brave. Both called "bombastic". Literally, how many times did I have to be told, "Can we trust Reagan with his finger on the trigger?" (of the bomb)... Reagan was the "nut" who was going to blow up the world. On and on.

I suppose Levin would say, "see! They were attacking 'from the left'!"... Well, actually, Reagan was also attacked from the right.

In the many "campaigns", Reagan did have to go after his competitors. What the hell did they expect him to do? Politics is sort of like business. Or war, even. But really, some of the things Reagan did, said, going after the competitors, wasn’t really any big deal, not really mean things. Just basic stuff.

So I recall, Rush was famous – for those funny, funny off takes, like political commercials, the Ted Kennedy thing and the car spinning "round and round" – people would literally record and replay these funny "commercials" on little tape recorders and, I swear to God, would replay them at work.

Rush expanded from Sacramento and became an icon. I love him. Who cannot? I really loved it, and still do, and I loved the mean stuff and the funny stuff.

But there was another guy, epic. Also called "Doctor". Doctor Savage. The first voice was heard on the "enemy station", AM radio KGO, then he move over to KSFO, both San Francisco. Levin later started a odd attack on Michael Savage. Honestly, I think Levin was jealous. Because Savage literally became a giant – both Jews had their moments and still do, but I am going to say Savage was more of a giant than Levin, God bless Mark and all. It is strange how things go, how these two started fighting. But honestly, I blame Levin more for it. I can tell you, Michael Savage is more, was more, than just a player in this entire rise of the Right, thank God for Savage. I am telling you, as he started his rise, people would be in cars, with the AM radio on, windows rolled down purposely so others would hear at every red light stop, they would be parked and playing Savage loud, "Adult content" yadda, yadda. The intensity there. Gripping. He would ripe the left into little mince meat, and entertain at the same moment, and be the General Patton the next, and the guy you want over to dinner a moment later.

I am going to reach a bit, but I don't think I am wrong, Levin would not have even existed if not for Savage. Also, Levin, yes, he is a Giant of a man. But not as Giant as Savage in the bigger picture of the rise of the Right. Levin is today leading the charge for the "Convention of States" – fantastic. Some States are even listening, and while it is a mix of "Constitutional Convention" and "Convention of the States" and such, and sort of one thing confusing another, if something does happen we all know who started it, Mark Levin. I love him.

I remember first hearing Glen Beck on 560 KSFO. Actually, he was about being funny. Seriously. I mean, he did a skit once, going the voice of an illegal alien. It was both epic, funny, classic, and memorial. He rose. Then rose higher still. We all knew he was a former drunk, in fact, being a former drunk probably contributed to his skill sets on the microphone, I hate to sound like someone promoting drinking, and Beck had gotten off the bottle long before his stardom. But later, he started getting nutty. Today, how can I NOT still love him? Of course. But, maybe I am wrong, but I think he thinks he is some God Prophet. To bring the message of the great apocalypse if we don't heed his angelic message of "love".

Beck went off on Trump. Now I sense, Levin is going to be next. Fine. But I am still going to support Trump. Sorry, Levin. I think also, Levin is about to make a huge mistake. I could be wrong. He has the absolute good intentions. He has been under huge stress for a long time, so many have. The stress is really bad. The times that weary men's souls. My God, the battles are epic. I am stressed, too. I bet a lot of folks are. But I will not change my vote because of Levin. And I think he is about to go Beck. Anyway, we are all suppose to listen to the debate tonight, to "detect" if "someone" (wonder who) uses "leftwing" or "attacks from the left". Levin is talking about Trump. We need to listen, replay it, each word. Is Trump actually working for Hillary, perhaps? He has changed his views from the past, will be become Hillary again? Pins and needles. Ok. I will listen carefully. But I think, Levin is under stress. Maybe I am wrong. But to me, he isn’t Gods gift, sorry. Sure hope he is there for all of this as the struggles continue. He is a giant Giant. Keep up the good work, Levin. I am not going to "attack from the left" and dump Trump. Sorry. I guess I am just a nut for the "cult of personality". Or something. But personality, like giants of the AM dial, is important, too... There are a lot of nutty things going on. A lot of stress. I am going to have "nerves of steel", however. I am not going to turn on Trump. No way, because he is the one who first got the issue of illegal aliens front and foremost. He is, to me, one hell of a brave guy. And yes, like Reagan. He might be from New York and not California, but he is ok by me. Ok Levin. I will listen to the debate. But my framework is a bit different. Ok, the "attack from the left" thing. But I am not going to go nuts about it.


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1 posted on 01/14/2016 6:24:56 AM PST by ShivaFan
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To: ShivaFan

Levin is really a conservative.
Trumpees are not conservative. No slight intended, it is just the truth. You aren’t the first to diss Levin. You just used more words.
You need to listen to this interview by Rush. Asked about Trump, he said he has brought some issues to national attention. When asked about Cruz he gushed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKObsoCMMXE


2 posted on 01/14/2016 6:31:49 AM PST by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: ShivaFan

Don’t give up your day job.


3 posted on 01/14/2016 6:34:22 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: ShivaFan

I like Trump. I love Cruz, and love Levin.


4 posted on 01/14/2016 6:35:37 AM PST by marron
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To: libbylu

I support Trump. I am a conservative. Your childish comments only hurt Cruz. And I say that as someone who would not mind Cruz as the candidate one bit. Grow up.


5 posted on 01/14/2016 6:38:15 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: marron

[ I like Trump. I love Cruz, and love Levin. ]

Seconded!


6 posted on 01/14/2016 6:38:20 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: libbylu

“Trumpees are not conservative.”

And here I was told by some Cruz people that no one on FR has ever said that.


7 posted on 01/14/2016 6:38:58 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: ShivaFan
Funny thing, I listened to Levin last night and there was nothing whatsoever in his monologue to indicate that he was "going Beck."

He called out those who are attacking Cruz from the left, and we all know that he meant Trump. Hell, some of his supporters right here on this site are trying to scratch up some traction from a New York Times pathetic smear piece which Levin called a huge nothing.

Mark also said it would be interesting to watch tonight's debate to see if any of the candidates would try a leftwing attack.

If you interpret that as a sign that Levin is losing it, then, yeah...I'd say you ARE a"nut for the cult of personality."

8 posted on 01/14/2016 6:39:30 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: ShivaFan

For what its worth, I haven’t watched Fox since Beck left.


9 posted on 01/14/2016 6:40:02 AM PST by marron
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To: ShivaFan

Mark Levin is a serious and real conservative. He is driven by conservative principles and a deep knowledge of and respect for our Constitution and laws.

No one knows where Trump is on many issues. He is a newly converted “Conservative” who says many unConservative things. A man like Levin will point this out and should.


10 posted on 01/14/2016 6:40:37 AM PST by Calpublican (A.G. Lynch: The intent of this statement is to incite violence against radical Islam)
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To: ShivaFan

Your writing style is great. Very interesting post.
This “attack from the left” thing is kooky.

The Obama BC was an “attack from the right”, not the left, although Hillary started it, she dropped it and we on the right attacked for good reason.

I guess any attack lately is an “attack from the left” if it is about Cruz.

An “attack from the right” must mean you cannot attack at all.


11 posted on 01/14/2016 6:41:20 AM PST by dforest
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To: ShivaFan

I rarely get to hear Levin. If the conditions are just right I can pick him up but most times reception is terrible when he comes on.

Personally, I wish his show would play when Beck’s does or even in Hannity’s spot. Beck lost me a long time ago and Hannity, well with out getting into great specificity, is boring and lacks depth.


12 posted on 01/14/2016 6:42:04 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: ShivaFan

Their hearts have always been Cruz. But Trump was useful to talk radio for a while. Trump muddied the water to the point the more mainstream republicans got lost in it. That was useful to talk radio. While no Beck fan, he was probably the first to turn against Trump. But now the real battle is beginning to be Cruz vs Trump. And the talkers have always really been Cruz supporters. To talk radio, Trump was a simply a useful side show that most figured would have fizzled long before now. It didn’t. And if you’ve listened closely you’ve noticed a tone change toward Trump. With the exception of Beck, who has simply come out against Trump, you’re beginning to hear little things here and there that ding Trump on talk radio. Not biggie things. Not harped on. But things mentioned in passing that are not the usual protections extended to the favored candidates. Little things here and there. As things amp up and get closer, you’ll hear more favoritism toward Cruz. Maybe not outright support, but read between the lines support.


13 posted on 01/14/2016 6:42:11 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: ShivaFan

When I have to read six paragraphs—and STILL don’t know what the article is about...


14 posted on 01/14/2016 6:43:16 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: ShivaFan

I think there’s wagons circling at this point, Beck and Levin and Limbaugh are all communicating with each other.

Levin fed Limbaugh information from Washington in Rush’s early days.

Levin in ‘inside the beltway’ in other words.

“Inside the beltway’ only sees R’s and D’s and nothing else but R’s and D’s. And the R is always better than the D in the end.

God Bless Mark Levin but I don’t have to agree with him although if he just came and talked like I do saying “I support Ted Cruz” that would be great.

There’s some sort of consensus that Cruz is the best man at this point.

In political terms Cruz has to win early stuff. With so many southern states where Cruz is strongest on the table before March 15th Cruz is forced to fight to win or else he loses.


15 posted on 01/14/2016 6:44:56 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: marron

Thirded.


16 posted on 01/14/2016 6:45:18 AM PST by skeeter
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To: libbylu

Hey Romneybot! You have ZERO authority to dictate who is and isn’t a conservative. Some people around here remember exactly what a joke you were in 2007 and still are right now.


17 posted on 01/14/2016 6:46:14 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: ShivaFan

What’s a conservative? If you side with the Ginsburg side of the court instead of Scalia’s side - are you a conservative?


18 posted on 01/14/2016 6:47:05 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: libbylu
You aren't the first Trump Supporter to diss Levin. ... You just used more words.

Hehe

At times, they're almost as bad as Paulbots.

19 posted on 01/14/2016 6:47:40 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: libbylu

I love Ted Cruz. I think he’s a true conservative and would make a great president. But I’m all in for Trump right now, for one overwhelming reason. Trump will owe no one in the GOP’s elite wing anything.

In 1980 when Reagan won the nomination, the GOP elites forced him to pick between GHW Bush and Gerald Ford for VP in order to get the full support of the party. Obviously Ford, being an ex-president, was not an acceptable option, so Reagan went with Bush. The result of that has been 30 years of the Bush family laying like a wet blanket on the conservative wing of the GOP, and it started with GHW Bush selling out to undo as much of what Reagan accomplished as he could, even at the cost of his own second term.

I trust Cruz. I trust Trump. I do NOT trust the GOP and unless we want a replay of the past 28 years there’s only one choice for me, and that’s the guy who can not only take over the GOP, but set the whole corrupt machine on fire. Cruz is the future, but Trump’s time is now. Let’s bury this past 28 years of crappy candidates (Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, Romney) and take our party back.


20 posted on 01/14/2016 6:48:10 AM PST by SquarePants (Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time)
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