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Is Levin about to go Beck?
opinion | 01-14-2016 | ShivaFan

Posted on 01/14/2016 6:24:56 AM PST by ShivaFan

I can just sense it. Yesterday, it almost happened, and everything is being couched in words, words that perhaps are felt to be needed to ready others for the "whys" and "what fors", words that indicate it is going to happen. Who am I to judge? Levin was one of those who lead the charge against the gang of eight. For that, I will always love him. Even if he goes Beck.

Decades ago, I recall turning on the little Japanese made transistor radio and going through the AM dial and listening in on "Doctor" Steuart McBirnie and his "Voice of Americanism" radio show. This would be the late 1960's and into the 1970's, I cannot pin point the exact time frames but early 70s should be correct. Yes, that would be the times. Most of you have no idea who I am talking about.

A great anti-communist. He was heard on hundreds of radio stations. He died I think in the 1990's. The human voice is very powerful. You may not know him, but he was a giant. Like Levin is today. Of course, Levin has a much farther reach than the "Doctor" did back then. McBirnie was the trail blazer, however, for what was to come. "Americanism" was both a sort of a whole milk word, it might have even been "confusing", yet it was appropriate. The "Voice of Americanism" from Glendale, California. More would come, especially with the battles that Ronald Reagan had to undertake and the establishment opposition, some of the times were epic. AM Radio played no small part. Victories were to come. Many more after McBirnie were to come. You know, California is called the "Left Coast" for no reason, but from the Left Coast the greatest came, including McBirnie, and then came Rush out of Sacramento, California.

Of course, Reagan was attacked as being a former Democrat. An "entertainer". "Rich". On and on, a lot of it sounded like the same attacks on Trump. Actually, the attacks were very similar to the attacks on Trump. That he wasn't a "conservative" then, will he change again and Reagan become a Democrat? And the Republican establishment was vicious on Reagan, who risked so much of his personal wealth and ability to even make a living at all. Because they definitely went after that, his ability to even make a living. The same huge risks that Trump is facing, every angle being used. Reagan was extremely brave. I think Trump is extremely brave. Both called "bombastic". Literally, how many times did I have to be told, "Can we trust Reagan with his finger on the trigger?" (of the bomb)... Reagan was the "nut" who was going to blow up the world. On and on.

I suppose Levin would say, "see! They were attacking 'from the left'!"... Well, actually, Reagan was also attacked from the right.

In the many "campaigns", Reagan did have to go after his competitors. What the hell did they expect him to do? Politics is sort of like business. Or war, even. But really, some of the things Reagan did, said, going after the competitors, wasn’t really any big deal, not really mean things. Just basic stuff.

So I recall, Rush was famous – for those funny, funny off takes, like political commercials, the Ted Kennedy thing and the car spinning "round and round" – people would literally record and replay these funny "commercials" on little tape recorders and, I swear to God, would replay them at work.

Rush expanded from Sacramento and became an icon. I love him. Who cannot? I really loved it, and still do, and I loved the mean stuff and the funny stuff.

But there was another guy, epic. Also called "Doctor". Doctor Savage. The first voice was heard on the "enemy station", AM radio KGO, then he move over to KSFO, both San Francisco. Levin later started a odd attack on Michael Savage. Honestly, I think Levin was jealous. Because Savage literally became a giant – both Jews had their moments and still do, but I am going to say Savage was more of a giant than Levin, God bless Mark and all. It is strange how things go, how these two started fighting. But honestly, I blame Levin more for it. I can tell you, Michael Savage is more, was more, than just a player in this entire rise of the Right, thank God for Savage. I am telling you, as he started his rise, people would be in cars, with the AM radio on, windows rolled down purposely so others would hear at every red light stop, they would be parked and playing Savage loud, "Adult content" yadda, yadda. The intensity there. Gripping. He would ripe the left into little mince meat, and entertain at the same moment, and be the General Patton the next, and the guy you want over to dinner a moment later.

I am going to reach a bit, but I don't think I am wrong, Levin would not have even existed if not for Savage. Also, Levin, yes, he is a Giant of a man. But not as Giant as Savage in the bigger picture of the rise of the Right. Levin is today leading the charge for the "Convention of States" – fantastic. Some States are even listening, and while it is a mix of "Constitutional Convention" and "Convention of the States" and such, and sort of one thing confusing another, if something does happen we all know who started it, Mark Levin. I love him.

I remember first hearing Glen Beck on 560 KSFO. Actually, he was about being funny. Seriously. I mean, he did a skit once, going the voice of an illegal alien. It was both epic, funny, classic, and memorial. He rose. Then rose higher still. We all knew he was a former drunk, in fact, being a former drunk probably contributed to his skill sets on the microphone, I hate to sound like someone promoting drinking, and Beck had gotten off the bottle long before his stardom. But later, he started getting nutty. Today, how can I NOT still love him? Of course. But, maybe I am wrong, but I think he thinks he is some God Prophet. To bring the message of the great apocalypse if we don't heed his angelic message of "love".

Beck went off on Trump. Now I sense, Levin is going to be next. Fine. But I am still going to support Trump. Sorry, Levin. I think also, Levin is about to make a huge mistake. I could be wrong. He has the absolute good intentions. He has been under huge stress for a long time, so many have. The stress is really bad. The times that weary men's souls. My God, the battles are epic. I am stressed, too. I bet a lot of folks are. But I will not change my vote because of Levin. And I think he is about to go Beck. Anyway, we are all suppose to listen to the debate tonight, to "detect" if "someone" (wonder who) uses "leftwing" or "attacks from the left". Levin is talking about Trump. We need to listen, replay it, each word. Is Trump actually working for Hillary, perhaps? He has changed his views from the past, will be become Hillary again? Pins and needles. Ok. I will listen carefully. But I think, Levin is under stress. Maybe I am wrong. But to me, he isn’t Gods gift, sorry. Sure hope he is there for all of this as the struggles continue. He is a giant Giant. Keep up the good work, Levin. I am not going to "attack from the left" and dump Trump. Sorry. I guess I am just a nut for the "cult of personality". Or something. But personality, like giants of the AM dial, is important, too... There are a lot of nutty things going on. A lot of stress. I am going to have "nerves of steel", however. I am not going to turn on Trump. No way, because he is the one who first got the issue of illegal aliens front and foremost. He is, to me, one hell of a brave guy. And yes, like Reagan. He might be from New York and not California, but he is ok by me. Ok Levin. I will listen to the debate. But my framework is a bit different. Ok, the "attack from the left" thing. But I am not going to go nuts about it.


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To: ShivaFan

Trust no talk show host. They are only in it for your ears.


21 posted on 01/14/2016 6:48:37 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: ShivaFan

No matter how much anyone would like to see him win, IMO - Trump can’t win in a general election. (unless Hillary is indicted by Oct)


22 posted on 01/14/2016 6:51:08 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: bramps

Sorry but I’ve got a job to get to. No time to read that much. Where do u get the time to write this?


23 posted on 01/14/2016 6:51:58 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: ShivaFan

I’m not sure what Levin’s problem is, but if he’s referring to Trump pointing out a potential problem with Cruz-z-z’s citizenship as an “attack from the left,” then he’s already gone full court TDS.


24 posted on 01/14/2016 6:53:56 AM PST by Pravious
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To: Calpublican
He (Levin) is driven by conservative principles and a deep knowledge of and respect for our Constitution and laws.

Oh really?

Where was Levin when questions about Obama's qualifications for the office of the Presidency were brought up? Conveniently hiding under his bed!

He would not allow any discussion of Obama's qualifications to be discussed on his show and when people complained on his website about his censorship he repeatedly wiped all criticisms off the site as well as from his social media accounts.

...a deep knowledge of and respect for our Constitution and laws?

My azz!

25 posted on 01/14/2016 6:54:06 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: ShivaFan

I dont do crowds for anybody in fact the larger the crowd the more I avoid getting emotional sucked in. The country elected a svengali in 2008 and may well elect another one in 2016 replacing one king with another.

Landing at the bottom of a cliff still hurts no matter what screaming crowd your in.
If you can explain what you candidate will do or not do then the choice is based on reason. I see lots of drama and emotion around Trump not much reason. Just my 2 words. I dont dis anyone that supports him I get it. Just no clue how he would restore our constitutional liberty, but I hear it will be YYYUUUUGGGEE


26 posted on 01/14/2016 6:55:15 AM PST by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: ShivaFan
Most of you have no idea who I am talking about.

You got that right.

Here, have a hat

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27 posted on 01/14/2016 6:56:41 AM PST by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: ShivaFan

Freerepublic.com is going DU.


28 posted on 01/14/2016 6:56:57 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump for press secretary! Cruz for president!)
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To: ShivaFan

I’m done with Levin. Listened to him for years, bought his books, gave credence to his opinions, but no more. Levin is an out and out flak for Cruz but won’t say he is. If Levin wants to endorse Ted, fine. That’s his choice. But to sit there day after day and claim you are neutral when you are not is being intellectually dishonest with your audience. But of course Levin needs ratings, so if he endorsed anyone outright, he’d lose part of his audience. And CR is all but an extension of the Cruz campaign, which Levin happens to be the editor of and plugs relentlessly. Levin is stuck in 1982, and if he’s not hawking books or his father’s books he’s screaming at the top of his lungs at anyone and everyone. He’s grown to be a tiresome act.


29 posted on 01/14/2016 6:57:44 AM PST by usafa92 (Conservative in Jersey)
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To: Nextrush

“There’s some sort of consensus that Cruz is the best man at this point.”

Among whom? People who rate their chosen candidate based on some kind of check-list of someone’s idea of conservative do’s-and-don’ts?

Personality, leadership ability and - yes, the ability to draw voters from the left and center is VERY important - and I don’t see that in Ted Cruz-z-z. I’ve tried to watch several of his speeches and they’re about as engaging as... well, seeing a lawyer prattle on. Even if, somehow, he ends up being our nominee, I CANNOT see him drawing enough voters to win the election away from the RATS - which is the whole point.


30 posted on 01/14/2016 6:58:05 AM PST by Pravious
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Sorry but I’ve got a job to get to. No time to read that much. Where do u get the time to write this?
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You replied to the wrong person. But I agree with your point. My eyes glazed over.


31 posted on 01/14/2016 6:58:41 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: ShivaFan

I think Shiva Fan has gone Beck.


32 posted on 01/14/2016 7:01:01 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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To: ShivaFan

another trumpeter adding another staunch conservative to their list of “he’s not conservative because he doesn’t love trump”

Here’s a hint...when you’re part of a group, but you start screaming that “everyone else” has lost their minds and are traitors to the group...it might not be the “everyone else” that’s lost their way.

Just sayin’


33 posted on 01/14/2016 7:04:08 AM PST by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: libbylu

Conservatives do not support liberals who all of sudden start saying one or two conservative things (I argue he never says anything conservative because conservatism is dependent on rule of law and Trump has never cared anything about that). Conservatives do not support oligarchs who buy politicians. Conservatives do not support opportunists who praise rapists and give money to their enablers. Conservatives don’t support grifters who care nothing about the constitution. Conservatives don’t think Reagan was an empty suite. Conservatives knew in 2009 that Obama wasn’t doing a great job. I could go on.


34 posted on 01/14/2016 7:04:53 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump for press secretary! Cruz for president!)
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To: WinMod70

Try “radio sure”. It has about 35,000 radio stations you can listen to. Just an easy download at radiosure.com. You can listen live to Levin on many stations.


35 posted on 01/14/2016 7:05:14 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I heard Levin say he was on the verge of maybe endorsing a candidate already last night.
From what I heard he is going to come out for Cruz.


36 posted on 01/14/2016 7:05:21 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ShivaFan

Talk radio uses a blend of information and entertainment to create a platform for advertising. If people don’t listen to a particular host, he/she will soon be gone, so they must find a style and message that holds enough attention to be commercially viable. If you see them as sages or gurus, fineb- just don’t lose track of the true reality.

Everyone is subject to ad-based persuasion, we just prefer one type over another.


37 posted on 01/14/2016 7:11:29 AM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Conservative commentators rallying around conservative leaders used to be pretty standard. This site used to discourage leftist smears and it was often not tolerated at all. There are a lot of websites on which liberals can smear conservatives, troll conservative’s supporters, and promote their liberal idols. This didn’t used to be one.


38 posted on 01/14/2016 7:12:56 AM PST by demshateGod (Trump for press secretary! Cruz for president!)
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To: A CA Guy
"I heard Levin say he was on the verge of maybe endorsing a candidate already last night. From what I heard he is going to come out for Cruz."

I heard that, too. He said he wanted to be careful to choose a solid conservative, with a record that shows he can be relied on to not change his mind or his views all the time. Also, he wants someone who will not engage in attacks from the left or trash the base.

So it sounds like Trump to me, lol. /S

39 posted on 01/14/2016 7:13:04 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ("Ted Cruz is the type of guy to swim across a moat with a knife in his teeth. He knows how to fight")
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To: ShivaFan
The first politically oriented topic I thought about this morning is Trump and the executive order. While a thread I am reading with this one makes me sick to my stomach the fact that Levin thinks Trump is dangerous is akin to my gut feeling.

What kind of "deals" is he going to make? What will he do with all that power after witnessing the uncontrolled Obama administration? Will the White House become the Gold House (I was imagining the East wing being desecrated to look like Versailles)?

Will he be bound by the Constitution in his heart and mind? We know what happens when a communist is in the White House. Go to the thread and consider if Trump can reverse executive ACTIONS, not orders.
WHITE HOUSE THREATENS AMERICA WITH IRREVERSIBLE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS VIDEO

40 posted on 01/14/2016 7:18:41 AM PST by huldah1776
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