Infantry: What Women Hate

Strategy Page ^ | January 7, 2016

[fella]

In December 2015 the American military was ordered to accept women in all jobs, including infantry and special operations. This decision involves about 220,000 jobs and about 20,000 of these are for special operations personnel, commonly known as commandos. While the politicians who pushed for this policy now consider the issue settled and done with, the officers and troops in infantry and special operations units are not pleased and concerned about how to deal with it. Senior officers are bracing for more retirements or troops simply walking away when their current term of service is done. Recruiting for these strenuous and dangerous jobs is seen as even more difficult. In other words opinion surveys indicate that many experienced combat troops are ready to vote with their feet and will be impossible to replace.

[Snickering Hound]

Male and female Israeli officers both report that it is not a good idea to put men and women together in observation posts or other isolated situations that require sustained concentration and alertness.

You think?

[Little Bill]

Imagine you are settling into a two man hole after humping 20 klicks in a 120 degrees with an M60, two hundred rounds and 60 pounds of other crap. On top of that it is Malaria pill day and you had the bad draw on c-rats and got every grease immersed ration.

On top of that you haven't showered in a couple of weeks because every time you're scheduled for a shower point your unit gets called off for an emergency that may or may not occur.

Now here you are with crotch rot down to your knees with the sweat rotting the arm pits out of your fatigue jacket, smelling like a goat, wondering how long your last pack of Camels will last, looking at Two Up and Two down because you are in a hot area, and sweet lips your hole Buddie has PMS and has run out of tamp-ex.

AHHH life in the Infantry. It does have a certain allure.

[PLMerite]

Make women register for the draft, and then announce that a female-only draft will occur until the percentage of women in the military jibes with the percentage of women in the U.S. population.

Equal is equal. Fair is fair. Karma is a bitch.

[Cold Heart]

Hey! I qualify! (old)

[CodeToad]

Often men take on the hard jobs to get away from the PC crap. Put women in and they feminize the organizations with PC crap. Men walk away.

[CodeToad]

“What will happen to these female “commandoes” when they’re captured by the enemy?”

Well, one particular SERE school tried to show them...the SERE instructors were reprimanded.

[CodeToad]

“Let’s open all military position to the old, disabled, blind,deaf, quadriplegic and comatose. The latter-most can be used in command roles.”

They already have been.

[familyop]

"...then he'd zip up, turn back and we'd continue the discussion. It was nothing. No big deal. But this all changes when the women come in. It HAS to."

I was a 12B in the Guard at the end of the eighties and through most of the nineties. We didn't see any women except for primary leadership schools (PLDC under Reserve), and then only a very few (each school given half the time regulars are allowed to do it, from 0400 hours to about 2100 hours each day to get it done). They were TDY from other MOSs.

One was assigned to my primary leadership school squad from an ARCOM office (journalist). She was from a different background, religion, etc. and was my battle buddy for the very short field phase of the school. I was older than most of the men around me. No privacy but no problem (very close as required in the field but stood watch with back turned when necessary, no stupid jokes). But those schools were gravy, about the easiest duty we did. Later on, I was an assistant instructor for one of those schools.

But...

Can't imagine women being in my old MOS or unit. They wouldn't like it at all. Nearly all of them would go away on zero day in initial training. Any who made it beyond that would be extreme suicide/stress fracture risks and problems later in home units. It would seem nearly impossible for a woman to pee in a grenade sump in a proper fire position (foxhole). Will they broaden the dimensions of fire positions?

Hmmm. I wonder how they measure fire positions now? Their rifles are a might bit short these days. ;-)

[familyop]

Oh, I know. Issue them even longer rifles than M-16s (for measuring), and write a new manual for the “Broad Fire Position with ‘Broad’-ened Grenade Sump.”

[Secret Agent Man]

We will have to make sure they fill at least half the slots, otherwise it’s sexist that half the infantry isn’t female. That’s how te left demands it in every other job, especially male dominated ones.

[Secret Agent Man]

Maternity privileges
Discharge privileges
Promotion/advancement privileges

[Chode]

don't know what they hate, but if they want to be line dogs, they must LOVE UTI and yeast infections... course the hoodrats are used to that by now

[arthurus]

The necessity and the goal is to prove that there is no difference whatever between one person and the next, that they are all interchangeable and expendable.

[Jeff Chandler]

Enough of these baby steps. Let’s open all military position to the old, disabled, blind,deaf, quadriplegic and comatose.

I own an elderly Chinese pug dog. Fat, mostly blind. I think she should be eligible to enter the K-9 corpse [sic].