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Would progressives freak out if insurance companies claimed that policies were living documents?
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Posted on 01/05/2016 1:08:38 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica

Full title: Would progressive ideologues freak out if an insurance company claimed that policies were living and breathing documents?

At the time I signed my policy.

That's the deal.

But what if the insurance company had a panel of nine experts wearing black robes that actually said that the policy was a little different than that, just because I signed my policy 5 years ago? Hey, things have changed. We need to evolve with the times. All that insurance providers ask or desire is permission - in an era when "development," "evolution," is the scientific word - to interpret this policy according to the Darwinian principle; all they ask is recognition of the fact that a policy is a living thing and not a machine.

Now I hope you don't misunderstand - An insurance policy is no more living and breathing than the Constitution is. But I think this is an instructive exercise in understanding the beliefs of progressivism. And yes, that was a quote directly from Woodrow Wilson, with one or two words changed.


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1 posted on 01/05/2016 1:08:38 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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To: celmak; SvenMagnussen; miss marmelstein; conservatism_IS_compassion; Loud Mime; Grampa Dave; ...

Random thoughts


2 posted on 01/05/2016 1:09:13 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot leave history to the historians anymore.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Hoo Boy Doggies !

Ain't THIS a sumbitch !

LOVE it

3 posted on 01/05/2016 1:12:38 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Good question. The answer would be dependent on how the results of the interpretation played out on a spectrum of most-liberal to most-conservative values. They would claim that it is entirely case-dependent, and cannot be answered in the overall context. IMHO


4 posted on 01/05/2016 1:17:19 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The only thing “progressive” about Progressives is their agenda to progressively destroy America.

aka, “fundamental transformation”.


5 posted on 01/05/2016 1:17:48 PM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: NEMDF

Insurance companies change their policies annually. The constitution doesn’t change. Now, if insurance companies said, that liberals, due to their self destructive ideology should pay more that would be more in line with what Obama did with Obamacare and the Constitution.


6 posted on 01/05/2016 1:19:34 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Your insurance policy is a living document, it changes constantly.


7 posted on 01/05/2016 1:22:11 PM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Or land deeds. Or wills. Or business contracts. Any legal document.


8 posted on 01/05/2016 1:22:32 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Or the lease on their trendy “loft” condo?


9 posted on 01/05/2016 1:23:03 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I guess I did not read into the article far enough to see what kind of insurance was being discussed. Not all types of insurance change annually; probably most types do not.


10 posted on 01/05/2016 1:26:20 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: ProgressingAmerica
It not really good analogy you can always cancel your insurance and get that in the contract....

with the Constitution its far worse

With the Constitution the left thinks they can change override it at will and you can't do a damn thing or get out of it...else they shoot you... all you can do is leave the country... and I would be surprised if they started blocking that soon...

Funny if the right want to build a border wall to control people COMMING IN...we are call evil racist xenophobes

But the left has a long history of being willing to build a border wall...if it to KEEP people IN!...(I think that's called prison)

11 posted on 01/05/2016 1:27:58 PM PST by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriots are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Or marriage vows


12 posted on 01/05/2016 1:38:10 PM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

depends on what the meaning of the word is is.


13 posted on 01/05/2016 1:53:32 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Or “sodomite marriage” “documents”?


14 posted on 01/05/2016 1:59:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: discostu

The point is what if the company interpreted it different than what it was originally intended to be? What if it was the exact opposite of what those that originally created it?


15 posted on 01/05/2016 2:03:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: tophat9000

Analogies are not perfect but they can still be useful and bring up a point.


16 posted on 01/05/2016 2:04:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You mean, what if what regularly happens happens? State Farm even advertises how regularly your idea of what you’re insured for and the company’s idea are different. And guess who always wins that argument. There’s a reason folks are generally advised to request the itemized version of your insurance policies at least once a year, it’s both to make sure it covers how your life has changed, and how they’ve changed the coverage definitions.


17 posted on 01/05/2016 2:11:19 PM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: motor_racer

Yes. Good one.


18 posted on 01/05/2016 2:21:26 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: discostu; Secret Agent Man
And guess who always wins that argument?

I know the answer to that question. It is long settled law.

The insuror always loses.

It is true that too many do not know for what they are covered. Like much of life it is sheer ignorance. It is not some scheme or conspiracy. It is spelled out in detail, in black & white, in english, is easily understandable, or can be explained by your retail agent.

An insuror cannot change the "coverage definitions" mid-term. As with any contract, an insurance policy can only be changed with the written consent of both parties.

That it can be amended, or endorsed, does not make it a 'living breathing' document. It is meticulously rigid, and its parameters specifically defined.

19 posted on 01/06/2016 12:40:49 PM PST by laotzu
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Yes, but so what.

Thanks for the BEEP!

20 posted on 01/06/2016 12:45:24 PM PST by YHAOS
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